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I'd say it's only loosely based on Foundation the book, and parts of the new plot made no sense. Also it was way too woke and moralistic for my taste.

kgwxd 3y ago
> too woke and moralistic Art reflects the current state of culture. When you consider speaking to basic human rights "extreme", in a time when basic human rights are being actively attacked on a daily basis, you're on the wrong side of history. If the the bigots would stop attacking these rights, artist would be bored talking about them because, from the other side, there is nothing remarkable about it other than the struggles introduced by the assholes who hate certain people for existing.
- bsaul 3y ago
  Basic human rights haven’t been attacked in the US since the anti-terrorist laws voted after 9/11 But somehow i assume this isn’t what you mean… and this is most certainly not what hollywood chose to put in their series for elevating the moral level of society (since it looks like they’re now reconverting from entertainers to priests). Instead what we end up with are bizarro versions of modern classics.
bsaul 3y ago
Don’t know why you got downvoted. This opinion is very widespread, based on people around me from diverse political opinions, including the « woke and moralistic » part. Hollywood recent trend of displaying moral virtues instead of a good script is ruining a lot of recent shows. This becomes embarrassing as most of the world isn’t concerned by america’s internal politics.
- skygazer 3y ago
  Well, apparently there are several people that agree with you, but I watched season 1, and I don't remember anything that could be called "woke," or was in any way pertaining to American liberal-vs-conservative or racial divides, even as allegory. Do you mind refreshing my recollection? Obviously, there were different races and religions from different planets in conflict. I am fairly centrist, so perhaps I'm not as attuned as some.
  - bsaul 3y ago
    the most obvious one is the trend of gender swap (man character becomes a woman character , usually with a far more important role, to boost the character a bit) and racial swap (white becomes black) to get a perfect « diversity » in the cast of characters on screen which look totally artificial and very often derails the story from the original plot (because they absolutely want to demonstrate that woman are as strong as men, instead of just create a good plot). The only exception in my mind so far is « sandman ». Which also had the same swap, but the original writer being involved, he managed to do it in a much more intelligent way (turning lucifer into a woman, and death as a black character for example, are two very interesting choices, that other writers may have been scared to do).

kgwxd 3y ago

> too woke and moralistic Art reflects the current state of culture. When you consider speaking to basic human rights "extreme", in a time when basic human rights are being actively attacked on a daily basis, you're on the wrong side of history. If the the bigots would stop attacking these rights, artist would be bored talking about them because, from the other side, there is nothing remarkable about it other than the struggles introduced by the assholes who hate certain people for existing.

bsaul 3y ago
Basic human rights haven’t been attacked in the US since the anti-terrorist laws voted after 9/11 But somehow i assume this isn’t what you mean… and this is most certainly not what hollywood chose to put in their series for elevating the moral level of society (since it looks like they’re now reconverting from entertainers to priests). Instead what we end up with are bizarro versions of modern classics.

bsaul 3y ago

Don’t know why you got downvoted. This opinion is very widespread, based on people around me from diverse political opinions, including the « woke and moralistic » part. Hollywood recent trend of displaying moral virtues instead of a good script is ruining a lot of recent shows. This becomes embarrassing as most of the world isn’t concerned by america’s internal politics.

skygazer 3y ago
Well, apparently there are several people that agree with you, but I watched season 1, and I don't remember anything that could be called "woke," or was in any way pertaining to American liberal-vs-conservative or racial divides, even as allegory. Do you mind refreshing my recollection? Obviously, there were different races and religions from different planets in conflict. I am fairly centrist, so perhaps I'm not as attuned as some.
- bsaul 3y ago
  the most obvious one is the trend of gender swap (man character becomes a woman character , usually with a far more important role, to boost the character a bit) and racial swap (white becomes black) to get a perfect « diversity » in the cast of characters on screen which look totally artificial and very often derails the story from the original plot (because they absolutely want to demonstrate that woman are as strong as men, instead of just create a good plot). The only exception in my mind so far is « sandman ». Which also had the same swap, but the original writer being involved, he managed to do it in a much more intelligent way (turning lucifer into a woman, and death as a black character for example, are two very interesting choices, that other writers may have been scared to do).