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I just don't see how people can be more productive at home, maybe if they work in isolation. But my experience is that a culture of very interactive programming

I just don't see how people can be more productive at home, maybe if they work in isolation. But my experience is that a culture of very interactive programming with team members solves problems fast and you can make light year jumps. Taking a project from a week into a day with two hands on it. That kind of thing works great in person. And it doesn't just benefit junior devs, but also srs who collaborate better. I think people are afraid of pair programming and it's very weird, as I love it. I do it a lot on zoom but it's not as good as in person.

markus_zhang 3y ago
You can do pair programming on zoom too. Also maybe not everyone enjoys dealing with other people, especially nerds? For me WFH is definitely more productive. For a start, I don't have to commune for 90 mins into office. If I RTO I'll politely remove all meetings from other time zones out of 9-5 because I need to catch a train or drive a car. Also, by WFH I don't have people who happens to enjoy a lot of chatting and "collaboration in person" to suddenly appear in front of me and request a talk! God finally I can work.
reassembled 3y ago
My manager and I have been doing some pair programming in VSCode’s “multiplayer” mode (can’t remember what it’s called). The implementation is pretty well done.
yukinon 3y ago
I've done pair programming on specific projects throughout the years and I find it to be utterly exhausting. I would resign if my job required it. I find myself more productive at home because there's often way too much office chit-chat between meetings that does nothing but serve to distract. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but there's an understanding among my hybrid team that if we need to get something done, we'll be WFH those days. Not to mention, I'm senior enough to always be in meetings and never program anymore, and for that I can do anywhere especially when the people I meet are in different parts of the world.

markus_zhang 3y ago

You can do pair programming on zoom too. Also maybe not everyone enjoys dealing with other people, especially nerds? For me WFH is definitely more productive. For a start, I don't have to commune for 90 mins into office. If I RTO I'll politely remove all meetings from other time zones out of 9-5 because I need to catch a train or drive a car. Also, by WFH I don't have people who happens to enjoy a lot of chatting and "collaboration in person" to suddenly appear in front of me and request a talk! God finally I can work.

reassembled 3y ago

My manager and I have been doing some pair programming in VSCode’s “multiplayer” mode (can’t remember what it’s called). The implementation is pretty well done.

yukinon 3y ago

I've done pair programming on specific projects throughout the years and I find it to be utterly exhausting. I would resign if my job required it. I find myself more productive at home because there's often way too much office chit-chat between meetings that does nothing but serve to distract. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but there's an understanding among my hybrid team that if we need to get something done, we'll be WFH those days. Not to mention, I'm senior enough to always be in meetings and never program anymore, and for that I can do anywhere especially when the people I meet are in different parts of the world.