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In this case, the relevant fact is pro-abortion protestors have a habit of firebombing things. > Twitter, alerted a federal law enforcement agency to pro-abort

In this case, the relevant fact is pro-abortion protestors have a habit of firebombing things. > Twitter, alerted a federal law enforcement agency to pro-abortion protests and rallies in the wake of the reversal of Roe v. Wade, according to documents obtained by The Intercept through a Freedom of Information Act request.

jandrese 3y ago
Which also seems like a reasonable reason for the FBI to get involved. The discussion tends to veer into "this is politically motivated" territory, when the law enforcement angle is more in the "preventing death and destruction" category.
manuelabeledo 3y ago
> In this case, the relevant fact is pro-abortion protestors have a habit of firebombing things. Which is ridiculous, given that there have been two fire bombings claimed by pro-choice groups since 2010, one in NY and another in WI, vs. eighteen committed by anti-abortion groups. That, and the fact that anti-abortion violence is fairly common in the US, compared to pro-choice violence [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
- zmgsabst 3y ago
  https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251553/map-vandalism-attacks-continue-at-pro-life-centers-across-us https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251553/map-vandalism...
  - sbuk 3y ago
    Can we have another, unbiased source please. That one is state-sponsored and doesn't provide a credible source.
    - josephcsible 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - sbuk 3y ago
        The Vatican is a state.
        josephcsible 3y ago
        Does the Vatican sponsor them just because they're Catholic? It looks like they're a purely US-based organization.
    - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
      That's not what "state sponsored" means. (I mean, yes, technically the Vatican is a state. It's still ridiculous to label everything Catholic as "state sponsored".)
  - manuelabeledo 3y ago
    While not insignificant overall, they are a drop in the bucket compared to violence against pro-choice. This is also a report on "vandalism", and I think we could all agree that aggravated battery and murder, are worse crimes, of which none has been committed by pro-choice groups.
    - pauldenton 3y ago
      Both sides seem to say the other side only encounters a drop in the bucket. Can you provide some data or source like the other guy did?
      - manuelabeledo 3y ago
        I did already [0]. It is not an unknown fact that right-wing and religious violence are a way bigger issue than any other form of domestic terrorism in the US. It has been like this for several decades now. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
wolverine876 3y ago
Do you have evidence of that?

jandrese 3y ago

Which also seems like a reasonable reason for the FBI to get involved. The discussion tends to veer into "this is politically motivated" territory, when the law enforcement angle is more in the "preventing death and destruction" category.

manuelabeledo 3y ago

> In this case, the relevant fact is pro-abortion protestors have a habit of firebombing things. Which is ridiculous, given that there have been two fire bombings claimed by pro-choice groups since 2010, one in NY and another in WI, vs. eighteen committed by anti-abortion groups. That, and the fact that anti-abortion violence is fairly common in the US, compared to pro-choice violence [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

zmgsabst 3y ago
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251553/map-vandalism-attacks-continue-at-pro-life-centers-across-us https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251553/map-vandalism...
- sbuk 3y ago
  Can we have another, unbiased source please. That one is state-sponsored and doesn't provide a credible source.
  - josephcsible 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - sbuk 3y ago
      The Vatican is a state.
      - josephcsible 3y ago
        Does the Vatican sponsor them just because they're Catholic? It looks like they're a purely US-based organization.
  - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
    That's not what "state sponsored" means. (I mean, yes, technically the Vatican is a state. It's still ridiculous to label everything Catholic as "state sponsored".)
- manuelabeledo 3y ago
  While not insignificant overall, they are a drop in the bucket compared to violence against pro-choice. This is also a report on "vandalism", and I think we could all agree that aggravated battery and murder, are worse crimes, of which none has been committed by pro-choice groups.
  - pauldenton 3y ago
    Both sides seem to say the other side only encounters a drop in the bucket. Can you provide some data or source like the other guy did?
    - manuelabeledo 3y ago
      I did already [0]. It is not an unknown fact that right-wing and religious violence are a way bigger issue than any other form of domestic terrorism in the US. It has been like this for several decades now. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

wolverine876 3y ago

Do you have evidence of that?