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I don't have a rumen or an abomasum. If you want to be large and strong, the science is irrefutable... eating meat is essential. Nothing substitutes.

tomjakubowski 3y ago
How is it possible that meat is "essential" for size or strength, when there are plenty of professional athletes who eat vegan? This guy weighs 263 pounds, squats > 650, and eats vegan. https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/ryanjstills https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/ryanjstills
- porkbeer 3y ago
  Vegan athletes are a rounding error, and most suppliment with things you would not typically consider vegan, much less nagural.
  - tomjakubowski 3y ago
    The claim is that meat is "essential" to become big and strong. Which nutrients in meat are "essential" for this but not in a vegan's diet, so that they have to fill the gap with supplements to be competitive in sports? For what one anecdote is worth, I'm friends with a former professional athlete who tried a vegan diet after after retiring - and years on he is still as freakishly strong and agile as ever. Many well-known pro athletes have gone vegan during their careers as well: Chris Paul, Venus Williams, Carl Lewis, among others. https://health.clevelandclinic.org/yes-can-vegetarian-athlete/ https://health.clevelandclinic.org/yes-can-vegetarian-athlet... https://www.gq.com/story/real-life-diet-chris-paul https://www.gq.com/story/real-life-diet-chris-paul
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
  How is it possible that it's essential, when a 22 yr old juicing to the gills can look like a bodybuilder carved out of marble? Well, when you're not a 1-in-a-million athlete. That's how it's possible.
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  - tomjakubowski 3y ago
    Who are you talking about? What juiced-to-the-gills 22 year old? More importantly, what's the science backing your claim that eating meat is essential to becoming big and strong?

tomjakubowski 3y ago

How is it possible that meat is "essential" for size or strength, when there are plenty of professional athletes who eat vegan? This guy weighs 263 pounds, squats > 650, and eats vegan. https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/ryanjstills https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/ryanjstills

porkbeer 3y ago
Vegan athletes are a rounding error, and most suppliment with things you would not typically consider vegan, much less nagural.
- tomjakubowski 3y ago
  The claim is that meat is "essential" to become big and strong. Which nutrients in meat are "essential" for this but not in a vegan's diet, so that they have to fill the gap with supplements to be competitive in sports? For what one anecdote is worth, I'm friends with a former professional athlete who tried a vegan diet after after retiring - and years on he is still as freakishly strong and agile as ever. Many well-known pro athletes have gone vegan during their careers as well: Chris Paul, Venus Williams, Carl Lewis, among others. https://health.clevelandclinic.org/yes-can-vegetarian-athlete/ https://health.clevelandclinic.org/yes-can-vegetarian-athlet... https://www.gq.com/story/real-life-diet-chris-paul https://www.gq.com/story/real-life-diet-chris-paul
NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
How is it possible that it's essential, when a 22 yr old juicing to the gills can look like a bodybuilder carved out of marble? Well, when you're not a 1-in-a-million athlete. That's how it's possible.
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- tomjakubowski 3y ago
  Who are you talking about? What juiced-to-the-gills 22 year old? More importantly, what's the science backing your claim that eating meat is essential to becoming big and strong?