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There is very little that is illegal to write down (with or without AI help) in most jurisdictions. Even things like threats, the crime is in the communication,
by drxzcl 3y ago
There is very little that is illegal to write down (with or without AI help) in most jurisdictions. Even things like threats, the crime is in the communication, not in writing the text. I can write down "Person X, I'm going to kill you dead" in my notebook as much as I want, as long as I don't communicate to anyone (i.e. threaten anyone, as opposed to writing down a threat in my personal papers).
I'm very curious what text a personally owned and operated network could generate that would be unambiguously illegal in a liberal democracy.
- zirgs 3y agoHolocaust denial in Germany.
- egeozcan 3y agoReally asking: If I deny it in my personal notes and they are discovered in an irrelevant search, would I be in trouble? That'd be horrible lawmaking.
- RedNifre 3y agoIANAL, but the German holocaust rules are about propaganda and I don't think that personal notes that were intended to not be read by anyone else can be considered propaganda.
- Bran_son 3y agoIn Ireland, perhaps soon: Irish Citizens Could Soon Be Jailed for ‘Possessing Material Likely to Incite Violence or Hatred’ - https://www.foxnews.com/media/irish-citizens-jailed-possessing-material-likely-incite-violence-hatred https://www.foxnews.com/media/irish-citizens-jailed-possessi... If you don't trust Fox enough, their article does link to the text of the bill, directly by the Irish government: https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2022/105/ https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2022/105/ I'd link to a more trustworthy source, like the New York Times, but they are curiously silent on this bill.
- mk67 3y agoNo, it needs to be public to some degree (i.e. "disturb the public peace"): § 130 Incitement to hatred (1985, Revised 1992, 2002, 2005, 2015)[38][39] (1) Whosoever, in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace: incites hatred against a national, racial, religious group or a group defined by their ethnic origins, against segments of the population or individuals because of their belonging to one of the aforementioned groups or segments of the population or calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them; or assaults the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning an aforementioned group, segments of the population or individuals because of their belonging to one of the aforementioned groups or segments of the population, or defaming segments of the population, shall be liable to imprisonment from three months to five years.[38][39] […] (3) Whosoever publicly or in a meeting approves of, denies or downplays an act committed under the rule of National Socialism of the kind indicated in section 6 (1) of the Code of International Criminal Law, in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace shall be liable to imprisonment not exceeding five years or a fine.[38][39] (4) Whoever publicly or in a meeting disturbs the public peace in a manner which violates the dignity of the victims by approving of, glorifying or justifying National Socialist tyranny and arbitrary rule incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years or a fine.[38][39]
- sundarurfriend 3y agoIs this a translation of the German law?
- BSVogler 3y agoYes. The original German text can be found here: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html
- zirgs 3y agoI would not be surprised that it could be considered probable cause to investigate you further. To check if you have links to neo-nazi groups and the like. People don't usually keep those materials just for fun. They usually distribute them. According to German law - distributing Nazi-related materials in private messages is a crime too. Germany is a country where this happens: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/09/pimmelgate-german-politician-police-raid/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/09/pimmelgate-g... A dude insulted a politician and the cops raided his house.
- RedNifre 3y agoPlease cite your source for this.
- sharemywin 3y agoHere's an example article: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-antisemitic-hate-speech-nazi-propaganda-holocaust-denial/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-ant...
- detaro 3y agoWhich supports RedNifre's point that it is about publication, not just material existing privately.
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- veidr 3y agoOP is talking about visual imagery, but even textual depictions may not be as legally safe as you think. Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn...
- aidenn0 3y agoTL;DR: in much of the world fictional child pornography is illegal. In the US, any fictional child pornography that is indistinguishable from factual child pornography, or any child pornography that is obscene under the Miller test[1] is also illegal. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test