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FYI the video/image doesn't appear to work on github but I found the link in the raw file: https://youtu.be/UCo7YeTy-aE https://youtu.be/UCo7YeTy-aE The video

FYI the video/image doesn't appear to work on github but I found the link in the raw file: https://youtu.be/UCo7YeTy-aE https://youtu.be/UCo7YeTy-aE The video cleared up a lot of questions for me and helped me to understand how powerful this could be. the debugger could be immediately useful even on existing codebases. do you see this being useful as a development tool for existing codebases or mostly (smoller) newer products?

swyx 3y ago
yea just fixed! yea Akshat from Modal also called out the debugger as the actually useful thing i originally thought of it as a scaffolding tool. instead of making and maintaining specific, rigid starters, like create-react-app, or create-supabase-app, this is basically create-anything-app. its horribly slow right now but give LLMs 1-2years of improvement and i think something like this will be the way to start out any project - develop a prompt in tandem with the AI, specifying everything and anything you want in the app... and abandoning the tool and taking over the codebase once you think you've tapped out the scaffolding capability. that said i do agree the debugger may have more utility for existing codebases... however the main hurdle here is that both the 32k context from gpt4 and 100k context from anthropic are only in private beta. so will have to wait to see it fully play out.
- kiwicopple 3y ago
  "create-anything-app" is a great name, gets the concept across it would be neat for to existing devtools to extend/wrap this. for example, supabase could ask "what are you building, and what do you want to build it with?", and then it could scaffold everything on top supabase. Or svelte could do the same, and it would generate a backend that svelte could sit on top of.
  - swyx 3y ago
    yeah i havent tried but it could probably do both sides of a full stack app. the key thing to add is ability to install any dependencies discovered along the way as that dep list will grow with the growth in specs

swyx 3y ago

yea just fixed! yea Akshat from Modal also called out the debugger as the actually useful thing i originally thought of it as a scaffolding tool. instead of making and maintaining specific, rigid starters, like create-react-app, or create-supabase-app, this is basically create-anything-app. its horribly slow right now but give LLMs 1-2years of improvement and i think something like this will be the way to start out any project - develop a prompt in tandem with the AI, specifying everything and anything you want in the app... and abandoning the tool and taking over the codebase once you think you've tapped out the scaffolding capability. that said i do agree the debugger may have more utility for existing codebases... however the main hurdle here is that both the 32k context from gpt4 and 100k context from anthropic are only in private beta. so will have to wait to see it fully play out.

kiwicopple 3y ago
"create-anything-app" is a great name, gets the concept across it would be neat for to existing devtools to extend/wrap this. for example, supabase could ask "what are you building, and what do you want to build it with?", and then it could scaffold everything on top supabase. Or svelte could do the same, and it would generate a backend that svelte could sit on top of.
- swyx 3y ago
  yeah i havent tried but it could probably do both sides of a full stack app. the key thing to add is ability to install any dependencies discovered along the way as that dep list will grow with the growth in specs