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> However, there may be no other way to someday reach level 5 for general driving, other than to live with that middle zone for a while (keeping in mind that it
by klyrs 3y ago
> However, there may be no other way to someday reach level 5 for general driving, other than to live with that middle zone for a while (keeping in mind that it’s already safer than humans driving alone) in order to conduct the training needed to reach level 5.
Gotta call bullshit on this. If human-piloted cars were bedecked in sensors, recording drivers' inputs and outputs, we could collect all the training we could need for L5 driving. It would take a ton of stringent curation, but that's going to be necessary anyway. It's not like Tesla has magically learned not to hit emergency vehicles stopped in traffic yet.
- deelly 3y agoOr, alternatively, we can slowly make roads safe for any AI driven cars. Use appropriate marking on the roads everywhere, clearly visible signs, clearly visible crosswalks, physically separated lanes for bicycles and vehicle similar to bicycles etc. etc. etc. Funny thing that we will simultaneously make roads safer for all cars and pedestrians and cyclists too.
- klyrs 3y agoIt doesn't snow where you live, does it? And your proposal doesn't remotely address the "emergency vehicles stopped in traffic" issue.
- inkcapmushroom 3y agoYesterday I was on a two lane country road where I saw a man standing on the opposite side of the road holding up a bright orange baseball cap in his hand and his other hand in a "stop" motion. I slowed down enough to where I didn't hit the crashed car which was just around the bend, but I may have hit it without the advance notice because the turn had very poor visibility. If I were an AI driver, I probably would have considered the man "not-an-obstacle" and promptly ignored him and hit the other car. After all, I'm trained to slow down when I see people in hi-vis with proper "slow traffic" signs. Some random person whose neighbor crashed and is waving the brightest color thing they have is not in the training data. Or in other words, there are signals humans can send to other humans which can be understood even if you haven't seen that particular signal before, and those will be the biggest challenge for an AI driver, at least if it resembles the current generation of AI.
- natch 3y agoFleet gathering of edge case data is a thing, and it helps with many cases. But of course you’re right some general intelligence is needed.