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Even without any obstacles a rented jeep Cherokee felt like it was constantly trying to kill me on mountain roads. The lane assist also turned itself back on ev

by m-ee 3y ago

Even without any obstacles a rented jeep Cherokee felt like it was constantly trying to kill me on mountain roads. The lane assist also turned itself back on every time the car started. Another baffling feature was that the car refused to move after stopping at stop sign. Turns out there’s a “safety feature” to disable the engine if the seatbelt is not buckled. Thankfully I was just looking for parking and the only consequence was some inconvenienced cars behind me but that could get really bad in the wrong situation.

cassianoleal 3y ago
On my dad's car, the middle back seatbelt has a pretty odd behaviour. It doesn't stretch at all if the car is moving, but it is allowed to contract. This means: - if the person sitting in the middle has failed to buckle up or at least stretch the belt enough before the car started moving, now they can't do it until the car stops again; - whenever the person in that place breathes out, they're running the risk of not being able to breathe back in next. - when the car accelerates, there is a tendency for the person to weigh back into the seat. That causes the belt to contract. Repeat the 2 latter points enough, and it becomes practically impossible to breathe or even to undo the buckle so you get trapped quite literally dying of asphyxia and in pain from the belt pressing hard against you.
- akerl_ 3y ago
  Maybe I’m missing something, but seems like your dad might want to take the car in for service. Malfunctioning safety equipment is a weird thing to let persist like this.
  - cassianoleal 3y ago
    The bit you're missing is that it's working as designed.
    - akerl_ 3y ago
      What makes you say that?
      - cassianoleal 3y ago
        * The fact that it's been through many full reviews * The fact that other cars of the same make and model do the same * The fact that (at least) some other models of the same make do the same * The fact that apparently I was the only person surprised at it when I mentioned to a few people who have cars of other makes as well * The fact that it was like this when it was new Perhaps none of these in isolation mean it's as designed but I reckon taken together they're a very good indication that it is as designed.
PeterisP 3y ago
I recall seeing a video of a car who managed to drive in a blocked zone and stop on rails, and eventually got hit by a train as it was unable to drive out - arguably because the driver opened the door, and afterwards the car automatically switched to parking or something.
ChatGTP 3y ago
About a year ago, was driving on a mountain road, the lane markets were eroded and the auto-pilot / driver assist thing stopped turning, If I wasn't paying attention it was straight into the barriers at speed. I just prefer to drive, I actually don't mind driving either.

by m-ee 3y ago

cassianoleal 3y ago

On my dad's car, the middle back seatbelt has a pretty odd behaviour. It doesn't stretch at all if the car is moving, but it is allowed to contract. This means: - if the person sitting in the middle has failed to buckle up or at least stretch the belt enough before the car started moving, now they can't do it until the car stops again; - whenever the person in that place breathes out, they're running the risk of not being able to breathe back in next. - when the car accelerates, there is a tendency for the person to weigh back into the seat. That causes the belt to contract. Repeat the 2 latter points enough, and it becomes practically impossible to breathe or even to undo the buckle so you get trapped quite literally dying of asphyxia and in pain from the belt pressing hard against you.

akerl_ 3y ago
Maybe I’m missing something, but seems like your dad might want to take the car in for service. Malfunctioning safety equipment is a weird thing to let persist like this.
- cassianoleal 3y ago
  The bit you're missing is that it's working as designed.
  - akerl_ 3y ago
    What makes you say that?
    - cassianoleal 3y ago
      * The fact that it's been through many full reviews * The fact that other cars of the same make and model do the same * The fact that (at least) some other models of the same make do the same * The fact that apparently I was the only person surprised at it when I mentioned to a few people who have cars of other makes as well * The fact that it was like this when it was new Perhaps none of these in isolation mean it's as designed but I reckon taken together they're a very good indication that it is as designed.

PeterisP 3y ago

I recall seeing a video of a car who managed to drive in a blocked zone and stop on rails, and eventually got hit by a train as it was unable to drive out - arguably because the driver opened the door, and afterwards the car automatically switched to parking or something.

ChatGTP 3y ago

About a year ago, was driving on a mountain road, the lane markets were eroded and the auto-pilot / driver assist thing stopped turning, If I wasn't paying attention it was straight into the barriers at speed. I just prefer to drive, I actually don't mind driving either.