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The top graph (Gallup 2017 Business & Industry Ranking Net Positive Scores) is 6 years old. 2022 results can be found here: https://news.gallup.com/poll/12748/

The top graph (Gallup 2017 Business & Industry Ranking Net Positive Scores) is 6 years old. 2022 results can be found here: https://news.gallup.com/poll/12748/business-industry-sector-ratings.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/12748/business-industry-sector-... Computer Industry is now 3rd and the Net Positive has gone from 67 to 35. Internet Industry has gone from 5th to the bottom half of the list and the Net Positive has gone from 41 to -2. Perhaps the Techlash was just a little late.

csallen 3y ago
I don't disagree with the trend you're point out, but it also has to be put in perspective: 1. That chart lists 25 industries, and "computer industry" still ranks #3 in terms of how positive people feel about it. It's ahead of almost everything. "Internet industry" is right in the middle of the pack. So tech is scoring somewhere between average and wayyy-better-than-average. Doesn't sound like much of a techlash. 2. Net positive sentiment has dropped in pretty much every sector. The most popular industry, the restaurant industry, saw a drop from 65% to 45% net positive. The second most popular industry, agriculture, saw a drop from 58% to 43%. In 2017 there were only 4 industries with net negative scores, but in 2022 there were 12, a 3x increase. So a big part of tech's apparent decline in popularity is really just a universal decline.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  For the 2017 results I think it was disingenuous to ignore the "telephone industry" ranking when talking about "tech" in general. The "telephone industry" did improve its relative placement in the 2022 results. I'm also uncertain as to how much of "television and radio industry" should be considered tech, or not.
  - q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 3y ago
    > I'm also uncertain as to how much of "television and radio industry" should be considered tech, or not. That's the thing. They're all tech industries, at this point.
    - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
      As an easy rule of thumb I kind of draw the line for when computer and information technology is an enabler of the industry or just a facilitator. For telephones we've passed the point for the majority of the population. For radio I don't know if it has yet reached that point. And for television I just don't know, but from the complaints about smart TVs we may have.
    - reillyduncN 3y ago
      Intel, Apple, AMD, GM, Ford and nVidia are tech producers (not an exhaustive list). Everyone else leverages tech production to run CRUD ops on data. Same as those companies did before but there also happened to be more paper involved.
repsilat 3y ago
> just a little late It fits with the article's explanation really. The media hate tech, propagandize against it, and they eventually win people over.
- fallingknife 3y ago
  I really don't understand why tech companies don't play hardball with them. Tech controls their distribution, so without their help they would just be screaming into the void.
- eastbound 3y ago
  What if the media represented a single large family of traditional wealth, while the tech were the new rich, and the media tries to dampen the tame of the new rich so that they can keep their dominance in the long term?
- ojbyrne 3y ago
  Sure it fits with the narrative, but the narrative is pretty poor. This article was just published recently, and it cherry-picks a graph from even before the economist article that coined the “techlash” world. Poor research and poor writing from (presumably) successful people contributes greatly to the “techlash.”

csallen 3y ago

I don't disagree with the trend you're point out, but it also has to be put in perspective: 1. That chart lists 25 industries, and "computer industry" still ranks #3 in terms of how positive people feel about it. It's ahead of almost everything. "Internet industry" is right in the middle of the pack. So tech is scoring somewhere between average and wayyy-better-than-average. Doesn't sound like much of a techlash. 2. Net positive sentiment has dropped in pretty much every sector. The most popular industry, the restaurant industry, saw a drop from 65% to 45% net positive. The second most popular industry, agriculture, saw a drop from 58% to 43%. In 2017 there were only 4 industries with net negative scores, but in 2022 there were 12, a 3x increase. So a big part of tech's apparent decline in popularity is really just a universal decline.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
For the 2017 results I think it was disingenuous to ignore the "telephone industry" ranking when talking about "tech" in general. The "telephone industry" did improve its relative placement in the 2022 results. I'm also uncertain as to how much of "television and radio industry" should be considered tech, or not.
- q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 3y ago
  > I'm also uncertain as to how much of "television and radio industry" should be considered tech, or not. That's the thing. They're all tech industries, at this point.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    As an easy rule of thumb I kind of draw the line for when computer and information technology is an enabler of the industry or just a facilitator. For telephones we've passed the point for the majority of the population. For radio I don't know if it has yet reached that point. And for television I just don't know, but from the complaints about smart TVs we may have.
  - reillyduncN 3y ago
    Intel, Apple, AMD, GM, Ford and nVidia are tech producers (not an exhaustive list). Everyone else leverages tech production to run CRUD ops on data. Same as those companies did before but there also happened to be more paper involved.

repsilat 3y ago

> just a little late It fits with the article's explanation really. The media hate tech, propagandize against it, and they eventually win people over.

fallingknife 3y ago
I really don't understand why tech companies don't play hardball with them. Tech controls their distribution, so without their help they would just be screaming into the void.
eastbound 3y ago
What if the media represented a single large family of traditional wealth, while the tech were the new rich, and the media tries to dampen the tame of the new rich so that they can keep their dominance in the long term?
ojbyrne 3y ago
Sure it fits with the narrative, but the narrative is pretty poor. This article was just published recently, and it cherry-picks a graph from even before the economist article that coined the “techlash” world. Poor research and poor writing from (presumably) successful people contributes greatly to the “techlash.”