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Vouched for this purely because I’m confused what you’re confused about. There are innumerable households where you follow certain traditions/culture, that com

by yunohn 3y ago

Vouched for this purely because I’m confused what you’re confused about. There are innumerable households where you follow certain traditions/culture, that come from previously religious influences, without actively practicing. This is common across all religions, across the world. Even within religious families, people end up moving on from some rituals while keeping others. Nothing odd about it, it’s normal and expected the way society functions.

pcthrowaway 3y ago
This isn't really what the above poster was saying, but "secular Jewish" can also refer to practically nonpracticing ("atheist" or "agnostic") or even practicing a different religion entirely. Since Jews are an ethnoreligious group, the identifier often refers to people with a Jewish ethnic background, vs people who are Jewish as a religion.
- yunohn 3y ago
  Well yes, that’s an aspect of the same idea I’m explaining. The meaning of ethno-religious is that their culture is intertwined with religion.
  - pcthrowaway 3y ago
    No, it's more about ethnicity and religion being intertwined. Judaism also references an ethnic group historically tied to the practice of the religion, but not necessarily. If you want to talk about people who are "ethnically jewish" but not "religious jewish", you can say something like "secular jewish" or "nonpracticing Jew". I am a nonpracticing Jew myself. I don't identify with any of the religious or cultural aspects of Judaism (although I have some educational background). But as a Jewish person, I'm still eligible for citizenship of Palestine/Israel (though not interested for political reasons), and also eligible for targeting by white supremicists/neonazis
    - yunohn 3y ago
      > I am a nonpracticing Jew myself. I don't identify with any of the religious or cultural aspects of Judaism Well, that’s exactly my point and what the parent commenter didn’t understand was possible. I think we’re talking past each other for no point…

by yunohn 3y ago

pcthrowaway 3y ago

This isn't really what the above poster was saying, but "secular Jewish" can also refer to practically nonpracticing ("atheist" or "agnostic") or even practicing a different religion entirely. Since Jews are an ethnoreligious group, the identifier often refers to people with a Jewish ethnic background, vs people who are Jewish as a religion.

yunohn 3y ago
Well yes, that’s an aspect of the same idea I’m explaining. The meaning of ethno-religious is that their culture is intertwined with religion.
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  No, it's more about ethnicity and religion being intertwined. Judaism also references an ethnic group historically tied to the practice of the religion, but not necessarily. If you want to talk about people who are "ethnically jewish" but not "religious jewish", you can say something like "secular jewish" or "nonpracticing Jew". I am a nonpracticing Jew myself. I don't identify with any of the religious or cultural aspects of Judaism (although I have some educational background). But as a Jewish person, I'm still eligible for citizenship of Palestine/Israel (though not interested for political reasons), and also eligible for targeting by white supremicists/neonazis
  - yunohn 3y ago
    > I am a nonpracticing Jew myself. I don't identify with any of the religious or cultural aspects of Judaism Well, that’s exactly my point and what the parent commenter didn’t understand was possible. I think we’re talking past each other for no point…