> Then how about hiring people in Canada They all do. But good luck getting a bargain. Canada is a smaller California (population-wise) stretched over 5 timez

> Then how about hiring people in Canada They all do. But good luck getting a bargain. Canada is a smaller California (population-wise) stretched over 5 timezones. Something you have to keep in mind is that there are two parallel markets over there: SV caliber developers and the rest. The former won't have any issue getting a job in the US (takes maybe a week for a talented engineer to get one). Therefore, comp has to be priced appropriately. The later can't -and likely won't ever be able to- secure a US visa, mostly due to skills (there's a reason they immigrated to Canada, it's way easier and the quotas are close to 10x per capita compared to the US). Some companies leverage this and have floors of international devs they park in Canada for a fraction of their US counterpart through a subsidiary. > Finland The country is a little bit smaller, population-wise, than Minnesota. Great education system, but only produces so many engineers.