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I have the feeling HN is not very newcomer friendly. I did not post any shit and got a lot of downvotes

latexr 3y ago
You can’t get downvotes without posting. And unless your account is under two weeks old (green username) someone would have to go out of their way (deliberately check your profile) to know if you’re a newcomer. Looking at your account and the greyness of its posts, most downvotes might have come from the same comment¹. Because you don’t have a lot of posts, it made a dent. I see no reason to believe that was due to you being new (which you’re technically not; your account is three months old). ¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35770958 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35770958
- ulrischa 3y ago
  Ok three month is new to me. How can you see the downvotes come from the comment?
  - latexr 3y ago
    > three month is new to me. Nonetheless, others reading your comments won’t know if your account is three months or three years old unless they deliberately go into your profile. In other words, it takes effort to identify newcomers. In addition, downvoting is only possible during the first 24h since a comment was made. > How can you see the downvotes come from the comment? Downvoted comments become a lighter colour. That was the only grey comment in your account.
  - ulrischa 3y ago
    And again downvote? What's up? I just asked how to see it...
    - ulrischa 3y ago
      I also got a downvote for my first post: Waste Heat Calculator
      - latexr 3y ago
        Submissions can’t get downvoted, only comments. Submission points are public and I can see that one has one point, meaning no one has upvoted it. But someone may have downvoted the comment you made there.
        ulrischa 3y ago
        Thanks for the help. I'm a little confused. Now I get :"You're posting too fast. Please slow down." I waited half an hour
        latexr 3y ago
        You’re likely making too many comments/edits too close to each other, which could be misconstrued for spam. Nothing to it, just wait a bit between posts.
    - yuppie_scum 3y ago
      Dude it’s just fake internet points, who gives a crap
      - throwawayixnay 3y ago
        [flagged]
      - ulrischa 3y ago
        I also thinks so
brudgers 3y ago
HN is new comer friendly in the sense that making an account is very low friction and the community culture does not discriminate against new users. The community culture tends to discourage behaviors that are ubiquitous elsewhere on the internet and there is a correlation between new users and the ordinary internet behaviors the HN community tends to discourage. The tendency of HN community culture to encourage things that are not ordinary behaviors on the internet is a way in which new users are often successful. I think a healthy way to understand downvotes is as feedback on the quality of my writing. Maybe I wasn't clear. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was saying something stupid, useless, mean-spirited, etc. I think that view has improved my writing. Your mileage may vary.
- ulrischa 3y ago
  For me this is more frustrating than twitter.
  - brudgers 3y ago
    Twitter fosters some behaviors that the HN community does not usually encourage. Some people find that a feature, not a bug. Others don’t, of course. HN culture is not focused on discouraging new users, but it is not for everyone.
    - ulrischa 3y ago
      Can you give an example?
      - brudgers 3y ago
        Complaining about downvotes. It’s even in the guidelines.
        ulrischa 3y ago
        Ok you just proved to be not friendly to newcomers. I asked and you are not friendly. I did not insult anybody. This here is eben worse than twitter and you do exactly what you said would make a difference.

You can’t get downvotes without posting. And unless your account is under two weeks old (green username) someone would have to go out of their way (deliberately check your profile) to know if you’re a newcomer. Looking at your account and the greyness of its posts, most downvotes might have come from the same comment¹. Because you don’t have a lot of posts, it made a dent. I see no reason to believe that was due to you being new (which you’re technically not; your account is three months old). ¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35770958 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35770958

ulrischa 3y ago
Ok three month is new to me. How can you see the downvotes come from the comment?
- latexr 3y ago
  > three month is new to me. Nonetheless, others reading your comments won’t know if your account is three months or three years old unless they deliberately go into your profile. In other words, it takes effort to identify newcomers. In addition, downvoting is only possible during the first 24h since a comment was made. > How can you see the downvotes come from the comment? Downvoted comments become a lighter colour. That was the only grey comment in your account.
- ulrischa 3y ago
  And again downvote? What's up? I just asked how to see it...
  - ulrischa 3y ago
    I also got a downvote for my first post: Waste Heat Calculator
    - latexr 3y ago
      Submissions can’t get downvoted, only comments. Submission points are public and I can see that one has one point, meaning no one has upvoted it. But someone may have downvoted the comment you made there.
      - ulrischa 3y ago
        Thanks for the help. I'm a little confused. Now I get :"You're posting too fast. Please slow down." I waited half an hour
        latexr 3y ago
        You’re likely making too many comments/edits too close to each other, which could be misconstrued for spam. Nothing to it, just wait a bit between posts.
  - yuppie_scum 3y ago
    Dude it’s just fake internet points, who gives a crap
    - throwawayixnay 3y ago
      [flagged]
    - ulrischa 3y ago
      I also thinks so

brudgers 3y ago

HN is new comer friendly in the sense that making an account is very low friction and the community culture does not discriminate against new users. The community culture tends to discourage behaviors that are ubiquitous elsewhere on the internet and there is a correlation between new users and the ordinary internet behaviors the HN community tends to discourage. The tendency of HN community culture to encourage things that are not ordinary behaviors on the internet is a way in which new users are often successful. I think a healthy way to understand downvotes is as feedback on the quality of my writing. Maybe I wasn't clear. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was saying something stupid, useless, mean-spirited, etc. I think that view has improved my writing. Your mileage may vary.

ulrischa 3y ago
For me this is more frustrating than twitter.
- brudgers 3y ago
  Twitter fosters some behaviors that the HN community does not usually encourage. Some people find that a feature, not a bug. Others don’t, of course. HN culture is not focused on discouraging new users, but it is not for everyone.
  - ulrischa 3y ago
    Can you give an example?
    - brudgers 3y ago
      Complaining about downvotes. It’s even in the guidelines.
      - ulrischa 3y ago
        Ok you just proved to be not friendly to newcomers. I asked and you are not friendly. I did not insult anybody. This here is eben worse than twitter and you do exactly what you said would make a difference.