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I don't understand your comparison to youtubers? They get paid for their work, and complain when the platform demonetizes their videos without being transparent

by roer 3y ago

I don't understand your comparison to youtubers? They get paid for their work, and complain when the platform demonetizes their videos without being transparent in their reasoning. I understand if you meant that they were complaining about their views decreasing, or their content not being compatible with the guidelines of the platform, but that is in my experience not that common. It feels to me like that part of your argument is just a subjective stab at the value of youtube as a job in society.

javajosh 3y ago
>...a stab at the value of youtube as a job in society Yes. Not to pick on youtube - it's just the strongest of the group of entities of which I'd include buzzfeed, vice and the rest. The world is saturated with entertainment, and it's not good for anyone. It's not good that kids grow up wanting to be youtubers not scientists. It's not good for the entertainers who chase the algorithm instead of building things or helping people.
- the_only_law 3y ago
  > It's not good that kids grow up wanting to be youtubers not scientists. To be fair, it’s not like being scientist is overly appealing. You have years of education which is potentially very expensive all for what? Crappy paying postgrad work and a modern academic career m or maybe a meh job in industry research that still is probably not paying that great. Not that I think they’d be better off in YouTube, at least on average.
- jeremyjh 3y ago
  YouTube is a lot of different things for different people, and serves niches that would simply go unserved without them. Comparing them to Vice - well maybe that is valid for some clickbait “news” channel but I like to watch - as one example - instructive chess videos that pretty much wouldn’t exist on any other platforms.
- roer 3y ago
  That is a very subjective view, which, as you said in your first comment, will sort itself out eventually if it is meant for it to do so.
- wesapien 3y ago
  The world has moved on. Rick Beato also laments about the future of musicianship because of software tooks and how kids prefer to watch someone do something more than to do the thing.

by roer 3y ago

javajosh 3y ago

>...a stab at the value of youtube as a job in society Yes. Not to pick on youtube - it's just the strongest of the group of entities of which I'd include buzzfeed, vice and the rest. The world is saturated with entertainment, and it's not good for anyone. It's not good that kids grow up wanting to be youtubers not scientists. It's not good for the entertainers who chase the algorithm instead of building things or helping people.

the_only_law 3y ago
> It's not good that kids grow up wanting to be youtubers not scientists. To be fair, it’s not like being scientist is overly appealing. You have years of education which is potentially very expensive all for what? Crappy paying postgrad work and a modern academic career m or maybe a meh job in industry research that still is probably not paying that great. Not that I think they’d be better off in YouTube, at least on average.
jeremyjh 3y ago
YouTube is a lot of different things for different people, and serves niches that would simply go unserved without them. Comparing them to Vice - well maybe that is valid for some clickbait “news” channel but I like to watch - as one example - instructive chess videos that pretty much wouldn’t exist on any other platforms.
roer 3y ago
That is a very subjective view, which, as you said in your first comment, will sort itself out eventually if it is meant for it to do so.
wesapien 3y ago
The world has moved on. Rick Beato also laments about the future of musicianship because of software tooks and how kids prefer to watch someone do something more than to do the thing.