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I would agree with that. Except the guy touts the merits of hiring from anywhere. He seems to think he’s somehow better than all the others he criticises (I, p

by ElFitz 3y ago

I would agree with that. Except the guy touts the merits of hiring from anywhere. He seems to think he’s somehow better than all the others he criticises (I, personally, favour remote work. Just not holier-than-thou hypocrites). All while his very own company hires from anywhere. Except outside the US. Except in one state out of ten. If hiring people "from anywhere" is so great, and if even Basecamp can surmount the legal hurdles of hiring people from anywhere, what’s Airbnb’s excuse?

zamadatix 3y ago
I'm still not sure I follow what said hypocrisy is supposed to be. The article is about how they have the ability to hire anywhere, which is true regardless if they currently hire everywhere or not. Similarly the quotes about traveling for the summer are not invalidated, you don't change residency if you go to e.g. Alabama for 2 months so it's not a problem it's on the list. While I agree places that allow anywhere without question are even better "pssh, this guy is saying they did something well and it's just good not even the best possible way!" is not really hypocrisy. Maybe there is more I missed in the article though
- ElFitz 3y ago
  > “Are you more productive having people physically in an office together and then constraining who you hire to a 30-mile or a 60-mile commuting radius to the office? Or by allowing your team to be able to hire people from anywhere?” he asked. From the linked "Airbnb CEO says the pandemic was the group’s ‘most productive’ two years ever, so now he’s making remote work permanent" [^1] (linked under "Airbnb made its “work from anywhere” policy permanent in April last year."): > Today, we’re announcing that Airbnb employees can live and work anywhere. [1]: https://fortune.com/2022/04/29/airbnb-ceo-remote-work-policy-most-productive/ https://fortune.com/2022/04/29/airbnb-ceo-remote-work-policy...
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    Again, you can allow your team to hire from anywhere without mandating they hire from everywhere and the remote work change is indeed permanent, rather flexible (you can still go to the office if you prefer). Regarding the last quote - the actual source, Twitter, contains more context with the following text of the same tweet saying there are 5 components for that, of which #3 is "You have the flexibility to live and work in 170 countries for up to 90 days a year in each location". If you read the article to throw stones at the guy I'm sure you'll be able to find stones to throw. If you read it to find what he was saying I'm still not sure how this thread relates to what he said beyond you wish he had said even more.

by ElFitz 3y ago

zamadatix 3y ago

I'm still not sure I follow what said hypocrisy is supposed to be. The article is about how they have the ability to hire anywhere, which is true regardless if they currently hire everywhere or not. Similarly the quotes about traveling for the summer are not invalidated, you don't change residency if you go to e.g. Alabama for 2 months so it's not a problem it's on the list. While I agree places that allow anywhere without question are even better "pssh, this guy is saying they did something well and it's just good not even the best possible way!" is not really hypocrisy. Maybe there is more I missed in the article though

ElFitz 3y ago
> “Are you more productive having people physically in an office together and then constraining who you hire to a 30-mile or a 60-mile commuting radius to the office? Or by allowing your team to be able to hire people from anywhere?” he asked. From the linked "Airbnb CEO says the pandemic was the group’s ‘most productive’ two years ever, so now he’s making remote work permanent" [^1] (linked under "Airbnb made its “work from anywhere” policy permanent in April last year."): > Today, we’re announcing that Airbnb employees can live and work anywhere. [1]: https://fortune.com/2022/04/29/airbnb-ceo-remote-work-policy-most-productive/ https://fortune.com/2022/04/29/airbnb-ceo-remote-work-policy...
- zamadatix 3y ago
  Again, you can allow your team to hire from anywhere without mandating they hire from everywhere and the remote work change is indeed permanent, rather flexible (you can still go to the office if you prefer). Regarding the last quote - the actual source, Twitter, contains more context with the following text of the same tweet saying there are 5 components for that, of which #3 is "You have the flexibility to live and work in 170 countries for up to 90 days a year in each location". If you read the article to throw stones at the guy I'm sure you'll be able to find stones to throw. If you read it to find what he was saying I'm still not sure how this thread relates to what he said beyond you wish he had said even more.