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Raised in a strict Maharashtrian Brahmin household That sentance adds background about the father's upbringing. It's no different from saying someone grew up i
by unmole 3y ago
Raised in a strict Maharashtrian Brahmin household
That sentance adds background about the father's upbringing. It's no different from saying someone grew up in a secular Jewish household or that their parents were born again Christians.
- Randomizer42 3y ago[flagged]
- yunohn 3y agoVouched for this purely because I’m confused what you’re confused about. There are innumerable households where you follow certain traditions/culture, that come from previously religious influences, without actively practicing. This is common across all religions, across the world. Even within religious families, people end up moving on from some rituals while keeping others. Nothing odd about it, it’s normal and expected the way society functions.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoThis isn't really what the above poster was saying, but "secular Jewish" can also refer to practically nonpracticing ("atheist" or "agnostic") or even practicing a different religion entirely. Since Jews are an ethnoreligious group, the identifier often refers to people with a Jewish ethnic background, vs people who are Jewish as a religion.
- yunohn 3y agoWell yes, that’s an aspect of the same idea I’m explaining. The meaning of ethno-religious is that their culture is intertwined with religion.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoNo, it's more about ethnicity and religion being intertwined. Judaism also references an ethnic group historically tied to the practice of the religion, but not necessarily. If you want to talk about people who are "ethnically jewish" but not "religious jewish", you can say something like "secular jewish" or "nonpracticing Jew". I am a nonpracticing Jew myself. I don't identify with any of the religious or cultural aspects of Judaism (although I have some educational background). But as a Jewish person, I'm still eligible for citizenship of Palestine/Israel (though not interested for political reasons), and also eligible for targeting by white supremicists/neonazis
- yunohn 3y ago> I am a nonpracticing Jew myself. I don't identify with any of the religious or cultural aspects of Judaism Well, that’s exactly my point and what the parent commenter didn’t understand was possible. I think we’re talking past each other for no point…
- Thorrez 3y agoI believe it means people with Jewish race and customs but not religion. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Jew https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Jew
- intrasight 3y agoIt means whatever you want it to mean - or nothing at all. I like to say that I'm a "secular Christian" - which also means nothing. Is merely a play on words.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago> which also means nothing "Secular jew" is not meaningless at all, it speaks about ethnic and cultural heritage. Incidentally, before anyone says "if you're secular you're not Jewish" being "secular" does not exempt someone from prejudice, they would still be identified as "a jew" by racists, as this story of a Secular Jew, "born into a family of secular Jews" makes clear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#1933:_Emigration_to_the_US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#1933:_Emigrati... > I like to say that I'm a "secular Christian" You could say that. Although Christianity is less rooted in ethnicity than Judaism is, but if your family are predominantly Christian for many generations, and it is your cultural background, then it would be accurate. Even meaningful.
- intrasight 3y agoThere is no more a Jewish gene than there is a Black gene or a Christian gene.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y agoFirstly that is reductive, simplistic; ancestry and culture is not the same as "a gene". And lumping "Christian" and "black" as the same kind of category regarding genetics is just very odd indeed. Second it's not entirely accurate, as any online genetic testing service will give a good estimate at e.g. percentage of Ashkenazi heritage. Thirdly and most importantly, it's not an answer to the above even if it was true, as it doesn't engage with the real existence - both for good and bad - of the ethnic heritage as given in the recent historical example above. Or, as the other reply put it: "as a (secular) Jewish person, I'm still eligible for citizenship of Palestine/Israel, and also eligible for targeting by white supremicists/neonazis". Neither of those two groups are going to ask "how often do you go to temple?" regarding someone's perceived Jewishness.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y agoI'm genuinely curious here. There's literally a wikipedia page linked below for that term. So what did you hope to gain by not even googling it before asking, in what comes across as a belligerent or dismissive way?