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https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-blue https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-blue > Prioritized rankings in conversations and searc

https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-blue https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-blue > Prioritized rankings in conversations and search: Tweets that you interact with will receive a small boost in their ranking. Additionally, your replies will receive a boost that ranks them closer to the top. Twitter Blue subscribers will appear in the Verified tab within other users’ notifications tab which highlights replies, mentions, and engagement from Blue subscribers. The rationale was that paying $8/month is the best way to filter out bots, but...

hutzlibu 3y ago
Oh, so it officially is "pay to win" now. Nice. Free speech to everyone, but if you actually want to be heard, you have to pay up. At least it is somewhat honest and not, oh, we didn't meant to do this, in our effort to convince more people into paying.
- mcv 3y ago
  So why do we still post Twitter conversations here? Shouldn't we be posting links to conversations on Mastodon instead? Or are we still somewhat addicted to Elon Musk's influence?
- madeofpalk 3y ago
  It actually kind of has the opposite effect. Turns out the people that want to pay to have their opinions heard probably don't have great things to say, so it creates an easy demarcation in the replies. You can just ignore all the posts at the top with a blue check, and then go down to the higher quality organic posts at the bottom.
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    Thanks for the advice, but I think I will just continue to ignore Twitter. Important things will still probably reach me in embedded shape or quote on other sites, but currently I cannot remember a single tweet at all, that not reading it, would have changed my life for the worse. So no doubt good content is hidden underneath, but all this drama makes it not worth it for me.
  - CiaranMcNulty 3y ago
    Blocking blue ticks also works well for this
    - bleep_bloop 3y ago
      Actually Elon gifted thousands of blue ticks to any accounts that had over 1M followers and other notable accounts in order to obfuscate who paid for their tick and who did not.
      - concordDance 3y ago
        Thousands? Thought it was hust three. Where did you find that out?
  - glenngillen 3y ago
    I’ve been considering adding this bot to my account just for a chuckle: https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1656005035631820804?s=46 https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1656005035631820804?s=46 But if this is what is happening to the prioritisation of replies it might actually be a useful change.
    - mcv 3y ago
      Does it only hide them for yourself? Because I can still see all those tweets that are meant to be hidden.
  - concordDance 3y ago
    Most of the people I know of paying for it are paying for the other features like long posts.
  - Amezarak 3y ago
    Ironically, this kept the overall bluecheck quality fairly stable. People used to be gifted bluechecks for knowing the right people or being some variety of celebrity or influencer, rather than because they were good or thoughtful writers.
- concordDance 3y ago
  Honestly, I don't know of a good solution to the coming LLM spam apocalypse other than something like this (paid verification of ID) or gov issued private keys. Any ideas?
  - r721 3y ago
    State-backed troll farms have million dollar budgets though, they could surely spend 8k/month on 1k accounts: >A notorious Russian "troll factory" had a $1.25 million [monthly] budget in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election to interfere in the US political system, according to charges filed by the Department of Justice. https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-troll-farm-spent-millions-on-election-interference-2018-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-troll-farm-spent-mil...
    - concordDance 3y ago
      Wait,doesn't twitter blue require ID verification?
      - hutzlibu 3y ago
        I thought it famously doesn't, because Musk said it is too expensive? And the official site also mostly just says, that mainly you have to pay and have a phone number. No sentence that they actually verify you are a living human being. "Only accounts actively subscribed to Twitter Blue are eligible to receive the blue checkmark. Our team uses an eligibility criteria on when the checkmark is given to ensure we maintain the integrity of the platform. Your account must meet the following criteria to receive or retain the blue checkmark: Complete: Your account must have a display name and profile photo Active use: Your account must be active in the past 30 days to subscribe to Twitter Blue Security: Your account must be older than 30 days upon subscription and have a confirmed phone number Non-Deceptive: Your account must have no recent changes to your profile photo, display name, or username (@handle) Your account must have no signs of being misleading or deceptive Your account must have no signs of engaging in platform manipulation and spam " https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twitter-verified-accounts https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twit...

hutzlibu 3y ago

Oh, so it officially is "pay to win" now. Nice. Free speech to everyone, but if you actually want to be heard, you have to pay up. At least it is somewhat honest and not, oh, we didn't meant to do this, in our effort to convince more people into paying.

mcv 3y ago
So why do we still post Twitter conversations here? Shouldn't we be posting links to conversations on Mastodon instead? Or are we still somewhat addicted to Elon Musk's influence?
madeofpalk 3y ago
It actually kind of has the opposite effect. Turns out the people that want to pay to have their opinions heard probably don't have great things to say, so it creates an easy demarcation in the replies. You can just ignore all the posts at the top with a blue check, and then go down to the higher quality organic posts at the bottom.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  Thanks for the advice, but I think I will just continue to ignore Twitter. Important things will still probably reach me in embedded shape or quote on other sites, but currently I cannot remember a single tweet at all, that not reading it, would have changed my life for the worse. So no doubt good content is hidden underneath, but all this drama makes it not worth it for me.
- CiaranMcNulty 3y ago
  Blocking blue ticks also works well for this
  - bleep_bloop 3y ago
    Actually Elon gifted thousands of blue ticks to any accounts that had over 1M followers and other notable accounts in order to obfuscate who paid for their tick and who did not.
    - concordDance 3y ago
      Thousands? Thought it was hust three. Where did you find that out?
- glenngillen 3y ago
  I’ve been considering adding this bot to my account just for a chuckle: https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1656005035631820804?s=46 https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1656005035631820804?s=46 But if this is what is happening to the prioritisation of replies it might actually be a useful change.
  - mcv 3y ago
    Does it only hide them for yourself? Because I can still see all those tweets that are meant to be hidden.
- concordDance 3y ago
  Most of the people I know of paying for it are paying for the other features like long posts.
- Amezarak 3y ago
  Ironically, this kept the overall bluecheck quality fairly stable. People used to be gifted bluechecks for knowing the right people or being some variety of celebrity or influencer, rather than because they were good or thoughtful writers.
concordDance 3y ago
Honestly, I don't know of a good solution to the coming LLM spam apocalypse other than something like this (paid verification of ID) or gov issued private keys. Any ideas?
- r721 3y ago
  State-backed troll farms have million dollar budgets though, they could surely spend 8k/month on 1k accounts: >A notorious Russian "troll factory" had a $1.25 million [monthly] budget in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election to interfere in the US political system, according to charges filed by the Department of Justice. https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-troll-farm-spent-millions-on-election-interference-2018-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-troll-farm-spent-mil...
  - concordDance 3y ago
    Wait,doesn't twitter blue require ID verification?
    - hutzlibu 3y ago
      I thought it famously doesn't, because Musk said it is too expensive? And the official site also mostly just says, that mainly you have to pay and have a phone number. No sentence that they actually verify you are a living human being. "Only accounts actively subscribed to Twitter Blue are eligible to receive the blue checkmark. Our team uses an eligibility criteria on when the checkmark is given to ensure we maintain the integrity of the platform. Your account must meet the following criteria to receive or retain the blue checkmark: Complete: Your account must have a display name and profile photo Active use: Your account must be active in the past 30 days to subscribe to Twitter Blue Security: Your account must be older than 30 days upon subscription and have a confirmed phone number Non-Deceptive: Your account must have no recent changes to your profile photo, display name, or username (@handle) Your account must have no signs of being misleading or deceptive Your account must have no signs of engaging in platform manipulation and spam " https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twitter-verified-accounts https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twit...