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You have to be aware, that many people here are not from USA, and their/our first thought is, that facebook and many others do that too. So for many of us, a fo
by ajsnigrutin 3y ago
You have to be aware, that many people here are not from USA, and their/our first thought is, that facebook and many others do that too. So for many of us, a foreign entity already has access to our conversations, content, and all the same data now china has from tiktok. For americans it might be different, since until now, it was only their three-letter agencies checking up on them (which technically is even worse, since chinese have a lot less access to those people if they start causing trouble than the local US agencies), and now it's someone else too.. but for "the rest of the world", it's just another country doing the same as has been done before by americans.
If you're bothered by social networks having access to a lot of very personal data, you're late to the game... if you're bothered because it's a different country, then welcome to the club.
- merek 3y ago> if you're bothered because it's a different country, then welcome to the club. The issue is which country has access to our very personal data, not simply a "different country". There are many countries whose citizens would trust a foreign government ahead of their own.
- ajsnigrutin 3y agoLet's say you're an american... and that you're plotting some anti-government movement at home. Which is more problematic... china knowing that, or your own government knowing that? I live in a small eu country... and as in most other eu countries, any weird request from china (for extradition or whatever) would just get ignored... if US asked... well, just look at assange.
- gretch 3y ago> Let's say you're an american... and that you're plotting some anti-government movement at home. Which is more problematic Okay and for the hundreds of millions of us who are not, do we prefer our govt knowing about us or the CCP. I’m not a fan of the USG by any means - I have many many criticisms of the govt and I’ve participated in protests. To put contemporary USG and CCP in the same league is crazy talk.
- RedCondor 3y agoYeah the CPC eliminates poverty whereas the USG wages war. There's no comparison.
- merek 3y agoYes, Cost Per Click eliminates poverty. For Google.
- firen777 3y agoPretty easy to do that if you redefine poverty. "600 million people have less than 1,000 RMB monthly income" - Li Keqiang, ex-premier of the State Council of China.
- ajsnigrutin 3y agoHow is that compared to 20 years ago? Did it get better or worse? I in no way support the chinese political system, but the one we have in the west (EU for me), made average rent higher than an average pension while buying is impossible for a huge percent of people due to overinflated prices. I used to live in a communist country (still live here, just the country doesn't exist anymore), and out of all the bad things they did, atleast they knew how to build affordable housing.
- aembleton 3y agoDifference is - I can be extradited to the US
- sva_ 3y ago> and now it's someone else too.. but for "the rest of the world", it's just another country doing the same as has been done before by americans. As someone from Europe, I strongly disagree. There's a HUGE fucking difference between China having our (western) data compared to the USA. Unsure why you'd even make such a silly argument.
- mardifoufs 3y agoYes, because you live in the west. Again, that's not true for the rest of the world. I for sure would rather prefer China reading my stuff than the US if I was still living in the middle east, for example.
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- throwaway2990 3y agoWhy? If you say “fuck Biden” nothing is gonna happen to you. If you say “fuck Xi” then you better hope you never travel to China. There’s a massive difference between east and west and what you say on the internet.
- mardifoufs 3y agoI'm pretty sure I can say fuck China and still travel there if I live in the middle east unless I'm a particularly vocal critic I guess. Saying down with the US can get you on a no fly list too by the way, if you live in the middle east. And whatever I say about China won't get me droned which is absolutely not the case for the US.
- reducesuffering 3y agoGonna need a source on US intentionally droning someone for their words.
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- Hnrobert42 3y agoCan you point to any articles or pet her sources of the three letter agencies getting backdoor access to social media sites?
- boomboomsubban 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM
- Hnrobert42 3y agoOf course I am familiar with PRISM. It did not have backdoor access to social media. And that was sort of my my point. If you have a reliable source to the contrary, I would be happy to see it.
- boomboomsubban 3y agoIt had direct access to Facebook content before it got encrypted for transit. How is that not backdoor access to social media? That sounds exactly like what it is alleged TikTok has.