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> How did we get to the current state of software? You mean how did we get to a point where : - I don't have to mash Ctrl+s because software crashers constant

> How did we get to the current state of software? You mean how did we get to a point where : - I don't have to mash Ctrl+s because software crashers constantly - segfaults are not a daily occurrence - any random executable can't crash the OS (hell modern windows can survive a GPU driver crash) - I can use the internet relatively safely - I don't need to restart my device after every install etc. ?

hulitu 3y ago
> > How did we get to the current state of software? > You mean how did we get to a point where : > - I don't have to mash Ctrl+s because software crashers constantly Office 365 would like to dissagree. Not constantly but not reliable either. > - segfaults are not a daily occurrence Just because Teams just dies without writing something on the console. > - any random executable can't crash the OS (hell modern windows can survive a GPU driver crash) Yes, but a docking station is the last straw. Power management on USB is hard. > - I can use the internet relatively safely Relatively > - I don't need to restart my device after every install But after every update ... > etc. ? We are living on a planet that's revolving and evolving ...
_ye0b 3y ago
Completely agree. Modern software is so much better than old software. Fuck the "ooh it runs on 100MB of RAM" I don't fucking care. All I care about is that it's so much more reliable than before, I can actually get my shit done now.
- FeistySkink 3y ago
  On rare occasions that I have to boot Windows to run some government-compatible software on a 32-core, 64GB RAM and I-don't-even-care-to-check-how-fast SSD, I have to listen to it firing on all cilinders while Defender fights Malicious Software something and Windows Updates while I'm typing some text in a barely responsive page. Truly getting my shit done. Edit: Forgot all the random software doing auto updates and notifying me about it as I go.
  - moonchrome 3y ago
    That's the price of living in a world where you're connected to the internet by default - a huge amount of performance goes towards security (sandboxing/scanning/rules). Windows 9x didn't even have a firewall FFS. Windows has to chose defaults for a huge audience, if you daily drove it it would probably just work. Way better than 95 would.
    - badsectoracula 3y ago
      > if you daily drove it it would probably just work More like, "if you daily drove it you'd get used to all the awfulness".
      - moonchrome 3y ago
        No, you can add defender exceptions/disable it and updates are staggered.
    - yobbo 3y ago
      Eh, no. Linux and bsd had process isolation and ran packet-filtering with little effort on contemporary hardware. You should also be aware that early android/ios phones did all this in "modern times" on limited hardware by today's standards.

hulitu 3y ago

> > How did we get to the current state of software? > You mean how did we get to a point where : > - I don't have to mash Ctrl+s because software crashers constantly Office 365 would like to dissagree. Not constantly but not reliable either. > - segfaults are not a daily occurrence Just because Teams just dies without writing something on the console. > - any random executable can't crash the OS (hell modern windows can survive a GPU driver crash) Yes, but a docking station is the last straw. Power management on USB is hard. > - I can use the internet relatively safely Relatively > - I don't need to restart my device after every install But after every update ... > etc. ? We are living on a planet that's revolving and evolving ...

_ye0b 3y ago

Completely agree. Modern software is so much better than old software. Fuck the "ooh it runs on 100MB of RAM" I don't fucking care. All I care about is that it's so much more reliable than before, I can actually get my shit done now.

FeistySkink 3y ago
On rare occasions that I have to boot Windows to run some government-compatible software on a 32-core, 64GB RAM and I-don't-even-care-to-check-how-fast SSD, I have to listen to it firing on all cilinders while Defender fights Malicious Software something and Windows Updates while I'm typing some text in a barely responsive page. Truly getting my shit done. Edit: Forgot all the random software doing auto updates and notifying me about it as I go.
- moonchrome 3y ago
  That's the price of living in a world where you're connected to the internet by default - a huge amount of performance goes towards security (sandboxing/scanning/rules). Windows 9x didn't even have a firewall FFS. Windows has to chose defaults for a huge audience, if you daily drove it it would probably just work. Way better than 95 would.
  - badsectoracula 3y ago
    > if you daily drove it it would probably just work More like, "if you daily drove it you'd get used to all the awfulness".
    - moonchrome 3y ago
      No, you can add defender exceptions/disable it and updates are staggered.
  - yobbo 3y ago
    Eh, no. Linux and bsd had process isolation and ran packet-filtering with little effort on contemporary hardware. You should also be aware that early android/ios phones did all this in "modern times" on limited hardware by today's standards.