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It's not intentional in the sense that they're trying to do that to her, but their algorithm likely determined that showing a video in that cohort leads to incr
by parker_mountain 3y ago
It's not intentional in the sense that they're trying to do that to her, but their algorithm likely determined that showing a video in that cohort leads to increased use of their app.
- TheSpiceIsLife 3y agoNo no no. You're confused. There is no algorithm acting independently. The responsibile agent(s) is(are) a person(people).
- parker_mountain 3y agoNo no no. You're confused. I didn't absolve the creator of guilt, I just said that it's unlikely they're intentionally trying to make her sad. They're just trying to increase engagement - at any cost.
- xapata 3y agoWhy? What motivates ByteDance?
- spondylosaurus 3y agoProfit, presumably? Same as any other company. Engagement = profit has been the formula for some time now.
- xapata 3y agoThere's some speculation that ByteDance is motivated by political goals as well as, or more than, profit.
- placatedmayhem 3y agoExactly. These outcomes are the results of the algorithms and their tuning, whether intentional or not. Humans are responsible for it and can tune it differently, to a different result. However, these new tunings may reduce engagement or other profit drivers, which a for-profit company will obviously not want to do.
- neilv 3y ago> It's not intentional in the sense that they're trying to do that to her, Do you know this for certain?
- parker_mountain 3y agoI'm pretty sure "tiktok is specifically trying to make people sad" and "tiktok does not really care if they hurt people as long as they increase engagement" are two separate concepts.
- neilv 3y agoYes, and reportedly neither is a completely resolved question.
- ThrowawayTestr 3y agoIs the former out of the question?
- erehweb 3y agoWhat would TikTok's motivation be to make her sad?
- fear_and_coffee 3y ago[dead]
- TheSpiceIsLife 3y agoThe USA's FBI currently claims: The counterintelligence and economic espionage efforts emanating from the government of China and the Chinese Communist Party are a grave threat to the economic well-being and democratic values of the United States. Confronting this threat is the FBI’s top counterintelligence priority. To be clear, the adversary is not the Chinese people or people of Chinese descent or heritage. The threat comes from the programs and policies pursued by an authoritarian government. The Chinese government is employing tactics that seek to influence lawmakers and public opinion to achieve policies that are more favorable to China. At the same time, the Chinese government is seeking to become the world’s greatest superpower through predatory lending and business practices, systematic theft of intellectual property, and brazen cyber intrusions. China’s efforts target businesses, academic institutions, researchers, lawmakers, and the general public and will require a whole-of-society response. The government and the private sector must commit to working together to better understand and counter the threat. https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/the-china-threat https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/the-chin... ByteDance's motives should, by now, be clear.
- andrewjl 3y ago> algorithm likely determined that showing a video in that cohort leads to increased use of their app Development, selection, tuning, and ultimately deployment of that algorithm were all intentional actions.