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Be that as it may.... > Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usu

Be that as it may.... > Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ipnon 3y ago
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- woooooo 3y ago
  I'm not Chinese, hi. The US is collecting vastly more data from our social media companies and using it to launch drone strikes that actually kill people. Nobody is outraged by this, it's "normal". Why should I be more outraged at this story?
  - threeseed 3y ago
    Nobody is asking you to choose which story to be more outraged about. Just that you really should stick to the topic at hand. Otherwise why not bring up that car accidents are a much bigger problem than social media.
    - axxto 3y ago
      "Condemning the actions of a foreign government" and "condemning similar actions by your own government" seem a little more related and on-topic than "social media and car crashes". And in my own personal opinion, that's especially true if those questionable actions by your own government overshadow any other similar effort both in scope, size and funding by several orders of magnitude when compared to the rest of the world. This obsession with shills is unhealthy. I'm glad there's a rule against it. I'm not Chinese either, and I find it quite sad that you have to state that in here sometimes just to be taken seriously, or else be called a shill.
      - ssnistfajen 3y ago
        The obsession about shills directly stems from the Red Scare which remains part of the core programming of Americans ever since. The CCP employes lots of commentators on domestic social media to enforce government narrative, but there is no evidence they are doing the same on English-speaking forums posing as grass root users. Native-level English skills are rare to come across in China, and anyone with that level of knowledge can easily find better paying jobs than this. LLMs may change that some day, but they won't be the only one deploying LLMs to attempt to influence online opinion.
      - threeseed 3y ago
        a) Be polite. I never called anyone a shill. b) Drone strikes and social media are not related either.
        woooooo 3y ago
        The drone strikes are linked to intelligence, which sometimes comes from the faang/natsec relationship.
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ipnon 3y ago

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woooooo 3y ago
I'm not Chinese, hi. The US is collecting vastly more data from our social media companies and using it to launch drone strikes that actually kill people. Nobody is outraged by this, it's "normal". Why should I be more outraged at this story?
- threeseed 3y ago
  Nobody is asking you to choose which story to be more outraged about. Just that you really should stick to the topic at hand. Otherwise why not bring up that car accidents are a much bigger problem than social media.
  - axxto 3y ago
    "Condemning the actions of a foreign government" and "condemning similar actions by your own government" seem a little more related and on-topic than "social media and car crashes". And in my own personal opinion, that's especially true if those questionable actions by your own government overshadow any other similar effort both in scope, size and funding by several orders of magnitude when compared to the rest of the world. This obsession with shills is unhealthy. I'm glad there's a rule against it. I'm not Chinese either, and I find it quite sad that you have to state that in here sometimes just to be taken seriously, or else be called a shill.
    - ssnistfajen 3y ago
      The obsession about shills directly stems from the Red Scare which remains part of the core programming of Americans ever since. The CCP employes lots of commentators on domestic social media to enforce government narrative, but there is no evidence they are doing the same on English-speaking forums posing as grass root users. Native-level English skills are rare to come across in China, and anyone with that level of knowledge can easily find better paying jobs than this. LLMs may change that some day, but they won't be the only one deploying LLMs to attempt to influence online opinion.
    - threeseed 3y ago
      a) Be polite. I never called anyone a shill. b) Drone strikes and social media are not related either.
      - woooooo 3y ago
        The drone strikes are linked to intelligence, which sometimes comes from the faang/natsec relationship.
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