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Conflict (and war) is dispute resolution. Conflict is not inherently wrong, nor is resolving conflict. Conflict happens when someone attempts to use dominance t
by hayst4ck 3y ago
Conflict (and war) is dispute resolution. Conflict is not inherently wrong, nor is resolving conflict. Conflict happens when someone attempts to use dominance to get their way and someone does not choose to submit, but submission does not hide the use of dominance. If there is someone who dominates and someone who submits "peacefully" that does not mean there was no violence. We call that coercion.
Conflict to resolve a dispute when one party is coerced is justified.
If a slave killed their master, they are resolving the dispute of whether a slave is a person or property. If Russia says Ukraine is not a country and Ukraine says yes we are, Ukrainians are not in the wrong for asserting themselves. If someone taxes you but doesn't give you the benefit of that tax money, then conflict to stop the theft is justified (revolutionary war).
So where you see conflict and think conflict is bad, I see conflict as a possible force for good. I don't want the US to become a corporate dystopia, but we are most definitely headed in that direction and that is a good conflict to have. I don't want China to be an ethno fascist state, but china is headed in that direction (and I personally believe they are already there), and putting a stop to that is a good conflict to have.
You have the privilege of saying china is not a villian, but if you put yourself in the shoes of Uighurs, people from Hong Kong, Tibetans or Taiwanese citizens rather than in privileged shoes, I think you would come to a different conclusion.
> People in China are generally happy
And that is the point. When you say people, you are referring to Han people. That's the ethno in ethno-fascist.
> The arsenal democracy is absolutely insane. The world doesn't need this.
I absolutely disagree. Sometimes your only choice is fight or submit, and I would rather live free than die a slave.
- byyyy 3y ago>I absolutely disagree. Sometimes your only choice is fight or submit, and I would rather live free than die a slave. Sometimes that is the only choice. On that we can agree. Unfortunately when it comes to China that is clearly not only Not the only choice, but also the stupidest and most harmful choice to both sides. Think about it. >Conflict to resolve a dispute when one party is coerced is justified. Whatever did China do to you? And whatever did you do to China? Mostly nothing. Just a trade war. I think China's biggest crime is attempting to get a GDP per capita bigger than the United States. Or stealing and copying technology being a big second. But China has been stealing tech since before the US-China rivalry so I think most of it spawns from the economic rivalry. These aren't legitimate coercion's, it's all dick size comparisons. >And that is the point. When you say people, you are referring to Han people. That's the ethno in ethno-fascist. What is this? That's obviously bullshit. So when it says "We the people" on the declaration of independence it's only referring to White males? That makes the US a ethno-sexist-corporate dystopia. Come on man. Although the "All men are created equal" part of the declaration literally, refers to white males. It's written on a historical document. If I used this to argue with you to make the claim that the US is a white supremacist country of males it'd be disingenuous and lacking nuance. I am telling you that's exactly the kind of arguments you are parroting from the US propaganda machine.