I didn't, but isn't this for educational use only (I'm guessing, I can't access the archive of the list)? Cincom seems to offer separate license for students an

I didn't, but isn't this for educational use only (I'm guessing, I can't access the archive of the list)? Cincom seems to offer separate license for students and teachers, I'm unfortunately unaffiliated with any educational institution :( But I did try to get commercial license, once. I had a project and a client for it, and a seemingly ideal use case. However, I wasn't able to sell the client the kind of licensing scheme Cincom wanted (they weren't unreasonable, just not what the client was willing to have). I ultimately abandoned the idea. Still, even knowing that I'm just a solo developer that's not going to earn them much, my contact with an account from Cincom was very pleasant and helpful. I saw the changelog for the next version of VW - there was a lot of really nice stuff there! Welcome fixes, improvements in many important packages, new functionalities - the product is evidently alive and getting better, but there was one thing missing. There were No. Breaking. Changes. I could reasonably expect my app to work if I built with 8.x version and later upgraded to 9.x. Can you imagine this? Cincom is, of course, a company targeting big corporations - a for-profit organization, and the most important part of VW is closed source. If Cincom dies, VW will probably also die, along with my projects. It's a risk, and it's not ideal. The fact that the PUL version is 6 years old at this point also isn't nice. And, above all, I don't wear suits and neckties. So, I'd really prefer fully open source Smalltalk (the only reasonable alternative, Smalltalk/X, also has the compiler distributed only as a binary blob) Unfortunately, Pharo simply cannot be that Smalltalk for me. To the dead sibling commenter: sure, I don't event want anybody to care. I'm writing all this for my own satisfaction, so please, just do your job of not caring properly and ignore it all.