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As compared to a nation that killed thousands of student protesters, ran over their bodies with tanks until they turned to mush, flushed it down the drain and t

As compared to a nation that killed thousands of student protesters, ran over their bodies with tanks until they turned to mush, flushed it down the drain and then banned anyone from mentioning it for 30 years I'll take the good old US thank you very much.

antisthenes 3y ago
What about a nation that was committing systemic genocide from coast to coast over the course of 150+ years, and after that put the people it didn't manage to kill in reservations?
FpUser 3y ago
>"ran over their bodies with tanks until they turned to mush" Can I have more details please >"I'll take the good old US" I would choose the US as well. Because the US treats their own citizens better (at least for now). Not because it stands on "high moral ground" - it does not.
- martindbp 3y ago
  "They had orders that nobody in the square be spared, and children and young girls were slaughtered, anti-personnel carriers and tanks then ran backwards and forwards over the bodies of the slain until they were reduced to pulp, after which, bulldozers moved in to push the remains into piles which were then incinerated by troops with flamethrowers." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/bob-hawke-tiananman-classified-cable/100184916 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/bob-hawke-tiananman-c... I love a lot about China, love Chinese people, but we have to be realistic about the differences in governance and its capacity for acts like this. We (non-Americans) are very lucky that the US became the world hegemon after WW2 and the sole superpower after the fall of the Soviet Union. For all its faults and mistakes, it usually recognizes them eventually and tries to improve over time. So, while it annoys me a bit that young Americans are so anti-US, it's a very healthy sign that there is so much criticism.

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As compared to a nation that killed thousands of student protesters, ran over their bodies with tanks until they turned to mush, flushed it down the drain and t

by martindbp 3y ago

antisthenes 3y ago
What about a nation that was committing systemic genocide from coast to coast over the course of 150+ years, and after that put the people it didn't manage to kill in reservations?
FpUser 3y ago
>"ran over their bodies with tanks until they turned to mush" Can I have more details please >"I'll take the good old US" I would choose the US as well. Because the US treats their own citizens better (at least for now). Not because it stands on "high moral ground" - it does not.
- martindbp 3y ago
  "They had orders that nobody in the square be spared, and children and young girls were slaughtered, anti-personnel carriers and tanks then ran backwards and forwards over the bodies of the slain until they were reduced to pulp, after which, bulldozers moved in to push the remains into piles which were then incinerated by troops with flamethrowers." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/bob-hawke-tiananman-classified-cable/100184916 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/bob-hawke-tiananman-c... I love a lot about China, love Chinese people, but we have to be realistic about the differences in governance and its capacity for acts like this. We (non-Americans) are very lucky that the US became the world hegemon after WW2 and the sole superpower after the fall of the Soviet Union. For all its faults and mistakes, it usually recognizes them eventually and tries to improve over time. So, while it annoys me a bit that young Americans are so anti-US, it's a very healthy sign that there is so much criticism.