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Why is this news worthy? Shouldn’t the opposite be news worthy? if he promises he won’t transfer power peacefully? Or if he tries to not transfer power after th

by arroz 3y ago

Why is this news worthy? Shouldn’t the opposite be news worthy? if he promises he won’t transfer power peacefully? Or if he tries to not transfer power after the election?

blinding-streak 3y ago
If you have to ask the question, it's newsworthy. Ergodan's all about shenanigans.
denton-scratch 3y ago
That was my reaction: if you have to say it, you prove that the matter is at least open to question.
retinaros 3y ago
because the media clearly wants him to loose so they can put a pro nato guy at the head of turkey. erdogan is a loose end, too much a nationalist, not globalized enough like a macron or a sunak. we re talking about the head of a state that resisted the US, lived through a coup d’etat where the main suspect lives in USA. btw this Gulen guy (who’s ten times the fanatic that erdogan is) is clearly typical america playbook (just like ben laden was a cia asset, hussein as well) Im not even backing the guy but it is neither black or white. he did move things and developed turkey to an extent few leaders could have dreamt of
- hgsgm 3y ago
  The coup was probably fake, and was followed by a political purge across government. Erdogan's staff violently attacked people in the US during his visit. Erdogan is supporting a radical religious takeover a secular state. He has a history of cancelling election when he doesn't like the result. He rules in the style of Trump, ignoring the law.
  - retinaros 3y ago
    unfortunately u right that he moved secular to religious (not radical…) and guess how he did it? by applying european law under the premise that it was for the best of turkey and mandated to enter the EU. turkish law was less lenient toward religious radicalism than the EU. that is how he removed the army from power by saying that europe forbade an army with political power. oh and it was forbiden in turkey to have the veil in public institution but thanks to europe erdogan used european laws and human watch laws from the west to allow it. so it is europe that allowed this radicalism to take root into turkey, destroying its failsafe. trump led usa to 0 war thank god he ignored the american tradition.

by arroz 3y ago

Why is this news worthy? Shouldn’t the opposite be news worthy? if he promises he won’t transfer power peacefully? Or if he tries to not transfer power after the election?

blinding-streak 3y ago

If you have to ask the question, it's newsworthy. Ergodan's all about shenanigans.

denton-scratch 3y ago

That was my reaction: if you have to say it, you prove that the matter is at least open to question.

retinaros 3y ago

because the media clearly wants him to loose so they can put a pro nato guy at the head of turkey. erdogan is a loose end, too much a nationalist, not globalized enough like a macron or a sunak. we re talking about the head of a state that resisted the US, lived through a coup d’etat where the main suspect lives in USA. btw this Gulen guy (who’s ten times the fanatic that erdogan is) is clearly typical america playbook (just like ben laden was a cia asset, hussein as well) Im not even backing the guy but it is neither black or white. he did move things and developed turkey to an extent few leaders could have dreamt of

hgsgm 3y ago
The coup was probably fake, and was followed by a political purge across government. Erdogan's staff violently attacked people in the US during his visit. Erdogan is supporting a radical religious takeover a secular state. He has a history of cancelling election when he doesn't like the result. He rules in the style of Trump, ignoring the law.
- retinaros 3y ago
  unfortunately u right that he moved secular to religious (not radical…) and guess how he did it? by applying european law under the premise that it was for the best of turkey and mandated to enter the EU. turkish law was less lenient toward religious radicalism than the EU. that is how he removed the army from power by saying that europe forbade an army with political power. oh and it was forbiden in turkey to have the veil in public institution but thanks to europe erdogan used european laws and human watch laws from the west to allow it. so it is europe that allowed this radicalism to take root into turkey, destroying its failsafe. trump led usa to 0 war thank god he ignored the american tradition.