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I see what happened there: sneaking that word 'being' to imply value and consciousness and then contradict that. You can reach any conclusion when the argument
by JoeAltmaier 3y ago
I see what happened there: sneaking that word 'being' to imply value and consciousness and then contradict that. You can reach any conclusion when the argument includes a contradiction?
- nmilo 3y agoWhat are you talking about? I'm not trying to pull an underhanded argument, I'm genuinely confused about others' views.
- JoeAltmaier 3y agoA rock is unconscious. Is it a 'being'? What is a 'being'? Something you feel bad about treating badly? The argument is circular.
- nmilo 3y agoPlants, bugs, and fish are all "beings" despite having varying degrees of consciousness and ethical allowability-of-harm. But fine. Whatever, my bad. Replace "being" with "entity" and my question still stands.
- JoeAltmaier 3y agoSorry, I thought that was a critical distinction, my bad. The hard part of this conversation is that 'consciousness' in other than the 'knocked unconscious' sense is a slippery concept. So we're all arguing from different assumptions.