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I don't see your point. A trained professional and an AI provide 2 different services. You're not going to flirt with a counsellor. And it's probably going to b

I don't see your point. A trained professional and an AI provide 2 different services. You're not going to flirt with a counsellor. And it's probably going to be a lot more expensive depending on where you live (in France getting a good counsellor is probably 60-150 per hour for example).

dghlsakjg 3y ago
I had the same thought as gp. The subtext is that if you’re so lonely that you are willing to pay $60/hour to talk to a robot pretending to be an influencer that knows you, there are probably some issues you need to resolve. You can take that same money and spend it on someone who is also non judgemental, and will listen to you, has an ethical and legal obligation towards your well-being, and will make suggestions for improvement. None of this is true for the robot. For all we know part of the Ai prompt is to try and keep people from hanging up to milk more money out of them. I’m guessing that most of the people who called in did it for novelty. But there are going to be a few people who think that the real person and the robot aren’t different. This seems crazy dangerous.
- bionsystem 3y ago
  I see your point of course, but I still think it has different purposes and constraints. For a therapist I would have to take time off of work, commit to a meeting in advance, have a limited amount of time (no more, no less). Also it's a real person and thus, despite him/her having those legal and ethical obligations, I know there are many topics I won't cover. And as I said you won't flirt or role play or anything with a counselor. So I put them on 2 very different kind of services.
  - dghlsakjg 3y ago
    Totally. There’s some novelty and entertainment value to be had with AI mimicking a real person. But I think that selling it as a “virtual girlfriend” and charging phone sex prices is exploitative. I think we’re about 2 weeks away from the real person being confronted by a real person who is convinced that since AI Caryn loves them, real Caryn will also love them, or owes them something. There’s just a lot going on here
    - bionsystem 3y ago
      It is exploitative indeed. I would probably pay 2x operating cost for such a service, and would need some proof that it isn't using my data elsewhere. I think they are just betting on some sort of 1st mover advantage. Once this gets enough competition, pricing will be crushed.

dghlsakjg 3y ago

I had the same thought as gp. The subtext is that if you’re so lonely that you are willing to pay $60/hour to talk to a robot pretending to be an influencer that knows you, there are probably some issues you need to resolve. You can take that same money and spend it on someone who is also non judgemental, and will listen to you, has an ethical and legal obligation towards your well-being, and will make suggestions for improvement. None of this is true for the robot. For all we know part of the Ai prompt is to try and keep people from hanging up to milk more money out of them. I’m guessing that most of the people who called in did it for novelty. But there are going to be a few people who think that the real person and the robot aren’t different. This seems crazy dangerous.

bionsystem 3y ago
I see your point of course, but I still think it has different purposes and constraints. For a therapist I would have to take time off of work, commit to a meeting in advance, have a limited amount of time (no more, no less). Also it's a real person and thus, despite him/her having those legal and ethical obligations, I know there are many topics I won't cover. And as I said you won't flirt or role play or anything with a counselor. So I put them on 2 very different kind of services.
- dghlsakjg 3y ago
  Totally. There’s some novelty and entertainment value to be had with AI mimicking a real person. But I think that selling it as a “virtual girlfriend” and charging phone sex prices is exploitative. I think we’re about 2 weeks away from the real person being confronted by a real person who is convinced that since AI Caryn loves them, real Caryn will also love them, or owes them something. There’s just a lot going on here
  - bionsystem 3y ago
    It is exploitative indeed. I would probably pay 2x operating cost for such a service, and would need some proof that it isn't using my data elsewhere. I think they are just betting on some sort of 1st mover advantage. Once this gets enough competition, pricing will be crushed.