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Ruby has the worst, most complex syntax I have ever used.

by sage76 3y ago

avg_dev 3y ago
wow lol. Des gustibus non-est disputandum. i code in go these days. i have done perl and java and some others, started with c, did a bit of python along the way. ruby was always my favorite language. so expressive, so easy to be clear while being terse. i've spent months of my life shortening (my own) verbose ruby code. i switched to go only because of the execution speed and the compilation, a few years back the comparison was not even close. i don't know if i would like to go back to dynamic language... but i found ruby to be such a beautiful language. p.s. this was big when i was leaving ruby: https://rubocop.org/ https://rubocop.org/ maybe there is a replacement now, but maybe it would have changed your view.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Rubocop is still important; a lot of tooling relies on it, such that many developers may not know they're using Rubocop.
- lobstrosity420 3y ago
  The gustibus is unarguable indeed, but calling it “complex” is definitely one of the takes of all time.
joshmn 3y ago
What do you consider to be the best?
nahname 3y ago
Ruby is practically the pseudocode they teach in schools. Which is selected for it's intuitive and simple nature.
Toutouxc 3y ago
Worst maybe, you definitely don’t have to like it. Difficult to parse, maybe, some things can look similar to other things (blocks and Hashes), but complex from to POV of the programmer? Not really.
zvmaz 3y ago
I used Ruby in the past and I found the syntax not that complex. What other language do you find syntaxically less complex?
- aigoochamna 3y ago
  Go
bdcravens 3y ago
Many languages look similar, and familiarity feels simple. Ruby however has a lot of idioms fairly unique to the language, and what is different is mistaken for complexity. I'd call promises in Javascript complex. A block is Ruby isn't complex, it's just weird if you're new to the language.
regularfry 3y ago
Funny, it has the best, most complex syntax I have ever used. I don't say this to be reductive. I believe there are two ways to approach a programming language: either from the formally-correct, highly-specified point of view; or from the communication and linguistics point of view. Ruby has a terrifying formal syntax precisely so that it can be extremely comfortable if you can get yourself to ignore the formality. The flexibility fits my brain extremely well, and most of the time the theoretical syntactic complexity just isn't an issue.

Ruby has the worst, most complex syntax I have ever used.

by sage76 3y ago

Ruby has the worst, most complex syntax I have ever used.

wow lol. Des gustibus non-est disputandum. i code in go these days. i have done perl and java and some others, started with c, did a bit of python along the way. ruby was always my favorite language. so expressive, so easy to be clear while being terse. i've spent months of my life shortening (my own) verbose ruby code. i switched to go only because of the execution speed and the compilation, a few years back the comparison was not even close. i don't know if i would like to go back to dynamic language... but i found ruby to be such a beautiful language. p.s. this was big when i was leaving ruby: https://rubocop.org/ https://rubocop.org/ maybe there is a replacement now, but maybe it would have changed your view.

bdcravens 3y ago
Rubocop is still important; a lot of tooling relies on it, such that many developers may not know they're using Rubocop.
lobstrosity420 3y ago
The gustibus is unarguable indeed, but calling it “complex” is definitely one of the takes of all time.

joshmn 3y ago

What do you consider to be the best?

nahname 3y ago

Ruby is practically the pseudocode they teach in schools. Which is selected for it's intuitive and simple nature.

Toutouxc 3y ago

Worst maybe, you definitely don’t have to like it. Difficult to parse, maybe, some things can look similar to other things (blocks and Hashes), but complex from to POV of the programmer? Not really.

zvmaz 3y ago

I used Ruby in the past and I found the syntax not that complex. What other language do you find syntaxically less complex?

aigoochamna 3y ago
Go

bdcravens 3y ago

Many languages look similar, and familiarity feels simple. Ruby however has a lot of idioms fairly unique to the language, and what is different is mistaken for complexity. I'd call promises in Javascript complex. A block is Ruby isn't complex, it's just weird if you're new to the language.

regularfry 3y ago

Funny, it has the best, most complex syntax I have ever used. I don't say this to be reductive. I believe there are two ways to approach a programming language: either from the formally-correct, highly-specified point of view; or from the communication and linguistics point of view. Ruby has a terrifying formal syntax precisely so that it can be extremely comfortable if you can get yourself to ignore the formality. The flexibility fits my brain extremely well, and most of the time the theoretical syntactic complexity just isn't an issue.