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"You stole a deadly vehicle and put people's lives in danger with it. Multiple times. You will be tried as an adult and the minimum sentence is 5 years." Why i

"You stole a deadly vehicle and put people's lives in danger with it. Multiple times. You will be tried as an adult and the minimum sentence is 5 years." Why is this not the obvious solution? (not as if you could single-handedly enact it, of course, but why isn't the city's leadership doing so?)

throwawaaarrgh 3y ago
This used to be the "solution", except all it did was act as a gladiator academy that turned out more hardened criminals after 5 years. Do that every year and every year you are just working a machine to create crime. Turns out that just putting people in jail doesn't make society safer.
- tinus_hn 3y ago
  Turns out patting people on the back and tearfully nodding to the stories about their sad youth doesn’t make society safer either. Ultimately life just isn’t fair and people do need to be induced to take responsibility for themselves.
- kwere 3y ago
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  - throwawaaarrgh 3y ago
    so, we should be living the movie A Clockwork Orange?
    - kwere 3y ago
      no, but some "lost causes" understand only violence, fear and shame if anything, religion served most of that purpouse, but that isnt effective nowadays. This strict treatments should be reserved to violent, higly recidive, antisocial, worst of the worst criminals, as a way to not have them treating the punishment of prison as a "gladiatior academy". 41bis like treatments in Italy could be a starter.
- pauldenton 3y ago
  Letting the criminals roam free with impunity makes society less safe
- brickteacup 3y ago
  Just give violent criminals exponentially increasing sentences for each conviction. Then they'll only get a handful of chances to reoffend in their lifetime
elif 3y ago
I'd be fine with this. To be honest I don't understand the laws but in my city there is a dude who has literally been charged with car vandalism 90 times, let alone all the times he's gotten away with it. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-police-suspect-90-prior-charges https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-police-suspect-90-p...

throwawaaarrgh 3y ago

This used to be the "solution", except all it did was act as a gladiator academy that turned out more hardened criminals after 5 years. Do that every year and every year you are just working a machine to create crime. Turns out that just putting people in jail doesn't make society safer.

tinus_hn 3y ago
Turns out patting people on the back and tearfully nodding to the stories about their sad youth doesn’t make society safer either. Ultimately life just isn’t fair and people do need to be induced to take responsibility for themselves.
kwere 3y ago
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- throwawaaarrgh 3y ago
  so, we should be living the movie A Clockwork Orange?
  - kwere 3y ago
    no, but some "lost causes" understand only violence, fear and shame if anything, religion served most of that purpouse, but that isnt effective nowadays. This strict treatments should be reserved to violent, higly recidive, antisocial, worst of the worst criminals, as a way to not have them treating the punishment of prison as a "gladiatior academy". 41bis like treatments in Italy could be a starter.
pauldenton 3y ago
Letting the criminals roam free with impunity makes society less safe
brickteacup 3y ago
Just give violent criminals exponentially increasing sentences for each conviction. Then they'll only get a handful of chances to reoffend in their lifetime

elif 3y ago

I'd be fine with this. To be honest I don't understand the laws but in my city there is a dude who has literally been charged with car vandalism 90 times, let alone all the times he's gotten away with it. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-police-suspect-90-prior-charges https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-police-suspect-90-p...