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I can only assume that you have very little experience of violent crime. Have you ever been attacked and beaten up by a random stranger? I have and I can hardly

by injb 3y ago

I can only assume that you have very little experience of violent crime. Have you ever been attacked and beaten up by a random stranger? I have and I can hardly think of any of my friends from my progressive, soft-on-violent-crime country who hasn't. Several of them have been stabbed and many hospitalised. None of the perpetrators were trying to survive or had any other excuses. Poverty and other social disadvantages might breed crime, but they do not breed violence. What we should do is stop locking people up for non-violent crimes and free up space for violent offenders. Frankly they can stay locked up for all I care. They are a tiny enough minority that it wouldn't cost that much. We are causing irreparable damage to non-violent people by locking them up for minor crimes that can be rectified. We are basically feeding them to the real criminals and making them stronger.

93po 3y ago
I have worked very closely with lots people who are currently incarcerated for violent crimes and while there's definitely shitheads there, there is also a lot of people who made mistakes and didn't have the structure and support in their lives to avoid getting to the place of making that mistake. Most of these people would not have committed violence if they had the proper social structures in place throughout their life - supportive family, friends, mentors, and peers that allow for meaningful personal development and mental tools to deal with life's difficulties in a healthy way. A lot of it wouldn't happen if there wasn't financial constraints that prevented that healthy development. Growing up in survival mode is a traumatic experience that many people never recover from. And many people are driven into a place of desperation and extremes when they lack basics for themselves and their families. They're all humans. Humans are largely a product of their environment. Sociopaths obviously exist, but most people in prison for violence are not sociopaths.
- ddingus 3y ago
  Good comment! I am mentoring one who you mean. Left on the streets at 13. That is the root cause of their trouble. The baggage is incredibly difficult to get past. A lot of that is systemic.

by injb 3y ago

93po 3y ago

I have worked very closely with lots people who are currently incarcerated for violent crimes and while there's definitely shitheads there, there is also a lot of people who made mistakes and didn't have the structure and support in their lives to avoid getting to the place of making that mistake. Most of these people would not have committed violence if they had the proper social structures in place throughout their life - supportive family, friends, mentors, and peers that allow for meaningful personal development and mental tools to deal with life's difficulties in a healthy way. A lot of it wouldn't happen if there wasn't financial constraints that prevented that healthy development. Growing up in survival mode is a traumatic experience that many people never recover from. And many people are driven into a place of desperation and extremes when they lack basics for themselves and their families. They're all humans. Humans are largely a product of their environment. Sociopaths obviously exist, but most people in prison for violence are not sociopaths.

ddingus 3y ago
Good comment! I am mentoring one who you mean. Left on the streets at 13. That is the root cause of their trouble. The baggage is incredibly difficult to get past. A lot of that is systemic.