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Windows under the hood with the NT Kernel is actually regarded among some experts as technically superior to Linux with the driver model and personalities subsy

Windows under the hood with the NT Kernel is actually regarded among some experts as technically superior to Linux with the driver model and personalities subsystem; it’s just that the stuff above the kernel isn’t so great…

waboremo 4y ago
The one place microsoft's advertising branch can't get to!
- photonbeam 4y ago
  For now Syscalls powered by MSNBC
- streakfix 4y ago
  Their scheduler is pure bullcrap. It favors cpu intensive applications, meaning it's good for gaming but horrible for every other use case
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    I would agree, if we would still be talking about Windows NT 4.0 or Windows 2000.
  - PaulRobinson 4y ago
    That makes sense if your main target use case is desktops where a small number of CPU-intensive apps are running, right? And even in many server apps where you have one main app being the reason the server is booted, this makes broad sense. Don’t get my wrong, but me and I bleed Unix-like systems and have done for decades, but what you’re saying actually makes sense for MS as a design decision…
  - AlexSW 4y ago
    How so? I believe I understand Windows' thread scheduler and this conclusion isn't obvious to me at all; from my understanding it seemed perfectly reasonable.
    - streakfix 4y ago
      Put windows on a 4 core system. Open two terminals. Run cargo build in one terminal. Run ls in the other terminal.ls will hang for a good 10 seconds before printing output
LeFantome 4y ago
VMS under the hood
yukIttEft 4y ago
Citations needed.
toyg 4y ago
The stuff above is actually pretty good, the problems come mostly from the obsession with supporting a flawed 30-year-old paradigm (the DOS world with its simpleton prompt), a failed system-management concept (the Registry), and the recent steer towards being adware.
- Xeamek 4y ago
  Why is the Registry a failed concept?
  - doodlesdev 4y ago
    It tries to be both a filesystem and a database and fails miserably at both. Entries layout is a total mess that not even Microsoft pays attention to anymore. Relevant: Why the Windows Registry sucks … technically https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32275078 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32275078 https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/why-the-windows-registry-sucks-technically/ https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/why-the-windows-regist...
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Yet, the GNOME folks decided to copy it.
      - toyg 4y ago
        Never underestimate the lack of imagination in the Linux-desktop world.
        lloydatkinson 4y ago
        Agreed. Years and years of objectively bad UX and UI with the likes of GNOME, KDE, etc. I cannot understand why the organisations creating Linux distros have never at any point thought to hire a designer or two so their desktop apps don’t look like someone just slapped them onto a window with either far too much padding (even more than HN loves to complain about the web) or not enough so usability is harder.

waboremo 4y ago

The one place microsoft's advertising branch can't get to!

photonbeam 4y ago
For now Syscalls powered by MSNBC
streakfix 4y ago
Their scheduler is pure bullcrap. It favors cpu intensive applications, meaning it's good for gaming but horrible for every other use case
- pjmlp 4y ago
  I would agree, if we would still be talking about Windows NT 4.0 or Windows 2000.
- PaulRobinson 4y ago
  That makes sense if your main target use case is desktops where a small number of CPU-intensive apps are running, right? And even in many server apps where you have one main app being the reason the server is booted, this makes broad sense. Don’t get my wrong, but me and I bleed Unix-like systems and have done for decades, but what you’re saying actually makes sense for MS as a design decision…
- AlexSW 4y ago
  How so? I believe I understand Windows' thread scheduler and this conclusion isn't obvious to me at all; from my understanding it seemed perfectly reasonable.
  - streakfix 4y ago
    Put windows on a 4 core system. Open two terminals. Run cargo build in one terminal. Run ls in the other terminal.ls will hang for a good 10 seconds before printing output

LeFantome 4y ago

VMS under the hood

yukIttEft 4y ago

Citations needed.

toyg 4y ago

The stuff above is actually pretty good, the problems come mostly from the obsession with supporting a flawed 30-year-old paradigm (the DOS world with its simpleton prompt), a failed system-management concept (the Registry), and the recent steer towards being adware.

Xeamek 4y ago
Why is the Registry a failed concept?
- doodlesdev 4y ago
  It tries to be both a filesystem and a database and fails miserably at both. Entries layout is a total mess that not even Microsoft pays attention to anymore. Relevant: Why the Windows Registry sucks … technically https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32275078 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32275078 https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/why-the-windows-registry-sucks-technically/ https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/why-the-windows-regist...
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Yet, the GNOME folks decided to copy it.
    - toyg 4y ago
      Never underestimate the lack of imagination in the Linux-desktop world.
      - lloydatkinson 4y ago
        Agreed. Years and years of objectively bad UX and UI with the likes of GNOME, KDE, etc. I cannot understand why the organisations creating Linux distros have never at any point thought to hire a designer or two so their desktop apps don’t look like someone just slapped them onto a window with either far too much padding (even more than HN loves to complain about the web) or not enough so usability is harder.