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MBP is usable after Ive’s exit. He’s surely Is talented but his success rate is not 100%. Apples main problem right now is software quality - this has become di

MBP is usable after Ive’s exit. He’s surely Is talented but his success rate is not 100%. Apples main problem right now is software quality - this has become difficult as there is integration between every device with every other apple device and the combinatorial complexity is difficult to maintain and test.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
Second gen Apple silicon MacBook Pro sales (M2 models) are only moderately higher then second gen Touch Bar MacBook Pro (2017) sales. And 2017 macbok pros only got a small spec bump. So the vast majority of customers were satisfied enough with usability even with the more sensitive keyboards, Touch Bar, etc.
- Tiktaalik 3y ago
  If Apple was still making the terrible 2017 macs with their lousy broken keyboards I think the users would be headed elsewhere with their next computer purchase. The M1s saved their marketshare. That a bunch of long time Apple buyers, used to a quality product from Apple, got suckered into buying the 2017 computer that was lousy says little.
- pedalpete 3y ago
  Another way to look at the data is that Mac users are buying Macs and Mac is not growing market share. This isn't surprising as the notebook/desktop market is mature and people are unlikely to switch platforms. So as long as Apple doesn't completely botch an update/upgrade, they will likely continue to sell about the same number each year.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    So then the usability concerns were not that big of a concern among most of the customer base.
dr_kiszonka 3y ago
Can you explain a bit more about software quality? (I am not a Mac user.)
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  If you buy the latest macbook pro and download vmware and run Mavericks (the OS from 2013) it will feel faster and snappier in several areas compared to the native OS that actually came preinstalled, even though it's running via an emulation layer.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Yep. On top of that: - Mavericks will look nicer and fit more content in the same screen space - You'll have less advertisements for Safari and Apple Music - 32-bit applications will Just Work I left my Mac behind for good after Mojave. It's too much work when Linux is what I deploy to anyways.

MichaelZuo 3y ago

Second gen Apple silicon MacBook Pro sales (M2 models) are only moderately higher then second gen Touch Bar MacBook Pro (2017) sales. And 2017 macbok pros only got a small spec bump. So the vast majority of customers were satisfied enough with usability even with the more sensitive keyboards, Touch Bar, etc.

Tiktaalik 3y ago
If Apple was still making the terrible 2017 macs with their lousy broken keyboards I think the users would be headed elsewhere with their next computer purchase. The M1s saved their marketshare. That a bunch of long time Apple buyers, used to a quality product from Apple, got suckered into buying the 2017 computer that was lousy says little.
pedalpete 3y ago
Another way to look at the data is that Mac users are buying Macs and Mac is not growing market share. This isn't surprising as the notebook/desktop market is mature and people are unlikely to switch platforms. So as long as Apple doesn't completely botch an update/upgrade, they will likely continue to sell about the same number each year.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  So then the usability concerns were not that big of a concern among most of the customer base.

dr_kiszonka 3y ago

Can you explain a bit more about software quality? (I am not a Mac user.)

MichaelZuo 3y ago
If you buy the latest macbook pro and download vmware and run Mavericks (the OS from 2013) it will feel faster and snappier in several areas compared to the native OS that actually came preinstalled, even though it's running via an emulation layer.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Yep. On top of that: - Mavericks will look nicer and fit more content in the same screen space - You'll have less advertisements for Safari and Apple Music - 32-bit applications will Just Work I left my Mac behind for good after Mojave. It's too much work when Linux is what I deploy to anyways.