> this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc Probably fair, according to the anec

> this is how Americans view the US. There is a lot of crime, the government and NGOs are on the side of the criminals etc Probably fair, according to the anecdata collected in my travels in life so far. This view of the US seems common, almost consensus. > he thinks they are far too low and want them increased more This part, I don't think is typical (or even widespread) among Americans, and I don't see it expressly endorsed by ravensfan69 - seems like you are presuming it. It seems to me that, by very far, the common American sentiment is, "our justice system has failed, and the focus on incarceration has made crime worse instead of better." On the other hand, many types of crime - especially violent crime - have fallen in my lifetime in the US, in concert with much of the rest of the world. But yeah, we Americans don't like prisons and we know damn well that our state is just building them as an end-around to achieve a plantation economy. We're not stupid.