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Schwinn does nothing to stop bicycle thefts. Let’s sue them too!

by macinjosh 3y ago

hoofhearted 3y ago
Apples to oranges lol
- local_crmdgeon 3y ago
  How? Bikes are easier to steal and sell, and we don't see them being sued. The logic is the same.
  - op00to 3y ago
    If there were a bicycle manufacturer that knowingly made its bikes easier to steal and sell, AND those bicycles when stolen were linked to numerous horrific collisions resulting in death and major injury of innocent parties, then there might be a comparison.
    - ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
      I don't know, in theory you could totally argue a bike could make it impossible to pedal without a key (the tech certainly exists). Your and at the end is really just building a straw man, it's not what's being discussed here.
      - op00to 3y ago
        Who's building a straw man? There's plenty of examples of exactly the scenario I mentioned happening. Deadly Crash Brings New Attention To Viral 'Kia Challenge' Trend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1laqHpw7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1laqHpw7A Robbins police: 3 teens in stolen Kia arrested after 71-year-old man dies in crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_QeFdPtus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_QeFdPtus Teen killed, suspect on the run after stolen car crashes on Roosevelt Boulevard https://www.fox29.com/news/police-stolen-kia-involved-deadly-crash-roosevelt-boulevard-suspect-on-the-run https://www.fox29.com/news/police-stolen-kia-involved-deadly...
        ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man You simply switched to an argument you could 'win' despite no one else actually bringing it up or refuting it.
        op00to 3y ago
        I was giving an alternative analogy that would be closer to the situation. Only you may present analogies?
plagiarist 3y ago
If a Schwinn-branded bicycle lock is so easily broken that the majority of thefts are from opening those locks, why not?
- Natsu 3y ago
  There will always be a most popular car to steal as long as there are car thefts. Maybe the problem is the thieves?
  - plagiarist 3y ago
    If it were possible for two problems to exist at the same time, I'd say one problem is a product defect reducing the barrier of entry so low that car theft is accessible to bored teenagers. But of course you are right, only one problem can ever exist and the problem is car thieves.
    - fib739mnsi 3y ago
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    - Natsu 3y ago
      This just kind of ignores how one of those things wouldn't even be a problem without the other.
      - plagiarist 3y ago
        True, if the locks were perfect then nobody would be stealing cars.
        HPsquared 3y ago
        They would first steal the keys, then the cars. That's actually more dangerous as it involves robbery or burglary. In a way it's better that the cars are easy to steal. Similarly, in bad areas some people leave their cars unlocked so that instead of breaking a window to rummage around inside, thieves can simply open the door.
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Schwinn does nothing to stop bicycle thefts. Let’s sue them too!

hoofhearted 3y ago

Apples to oranges lol

local_crmdgeon 3y ago
How? Bikes are easier to steal and sell, and we don't see them being sued. The logic is the same.
- op00to 3y ago
  If there were a bicycle manufacturer that knowingly made its bikes easier to steal and sell, AND those bicycles when stolen were linked to numerous horrific collisions resulting in death and major injury of innocent parties, then there might be a comparison.
  - ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
    I don't know, in theory you could totally argue a bike could make it impossible to pedal without a key (the tech certainly exists). Your and at the end is really just building a straw man, it's not what's being discussed here.
    - op00to 3y ago
      Who's building a straw man? There's plenty of examples of exactly the scenario I mentioned happening. Deadly Crash Brings New Attention To Viral 'Kia Challenge' Trend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1laqHpw7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1laqHpw7A Robbins police: 3 teens in stolen Kia arrested after 71-year-old man dies in crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_QeFdPtus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_QeFdPtus Teen killed, suspect on the run after stolen car crashes on Roosevelt Boulevard https://www.fox29.com/news/police-stolen-kia-involved-deadly-crash-roosevelt-boulevard-suspect-on-the-run https://www.fox29.com/news/police-stolen-kia-involved-deadly...
      - ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man You simply switched to an argument you could 'win' despite no one else actually bringing it up or refuting it.
        op00to 3y ago
        I was giving an alternative analogy that would be closer to the situation. Only you may present analogies?

plagiarist 3y ago

If a Schwinn-branded bicycle lock is so easily broken that the majority of thefts are from opening those locks, why not?

Natsu 3y ago
There will always be a most popular car to steal as long as there are car thefts. Maybe the problem is the thieves?
- plagiarist 3y ago
  If it were possible for two problems to exist at the same time, I'd say one problem is a product defect reducing the barrier of entry so low that car theft is accessible to bored teenagers. But of course you are right, only one problem can ever exist and the problem is car thieves.
  - fib739mnsi 3y ago
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  - Natsu 3y ago
    This just kind of ignores how one of those things wouldn't even be a problem without the other.
    - plagiarist 3y ago
      True, if the locks were perfect then nobody would be stealing cars.
      - HPsquared 3y ago
        They would first steal the keys, then the cars. That's actually more dangerous as it involves robbery or burglary. In a way it's better that the cars are easy to steal. Similarly, in bad areas some people leave their cars unlocked so that instead of breaking a window to rummage around inside, thieves can simply open the door.

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