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I think this is exactly the right profile for him to have hired. She led advertising (sales) at a top 3 media publisher. This is probably Elon's greatest area o

I think this is exactly the right profile for him to have hired. She led advertising (sales) at a top 3 media publisher. This is probably Elon's greatest area of weakness, and she's particularly good at it. I imagine this will be a bit like SpaceX where Sales and Ops is done by someone very good at that, and engineering is done by Elon. It takes a realistic, self-aware person to hire someone who's better than them at their weaknesses, and is harder done than said.

rscho 3y ago
Engineering is done by Elon?
- sebzim4500 3y ago
  I'd hope so, he is the lead engineer of a company which is currently on a ~200 mission long streak of successful missions to space. Figuring out how twitter should work seems easier than that.
  - pprotas 3y ago
    Didn’t they blow up that huge rocket 2 weeks ago? Seems like there is some leeway in the definition of “successful mission” here xd
    - sebzim4500 3y ago
      Yeah I'm just considering actual missions where a customer is paying them to deliver something to space (crew or satellites). If you include tests then they obviously have a much worse record.
    - aik 3y ago
      Is your argument that SpaceX is a failure? Wow the slant in this entire thread. When did HN become such a fervent Elon hate machine. Honestly curious, is most of this from his actions at Twitter?
      - 8vectors 3y ago
        My guess is one or more of the billionaires that Elon pissed off started funding a persistent anti-elon narrative, and that has shown up as bot farms especially on reddit. Then people who don't think for themselves started propagating it wherever they go... Because of how fun it is to argue on the internet and all of that. It started as an anti Tesla narrative which was obviously paid for by the Tesla shorts, but this new supercharged anti Elon narrative ramped up when it started to become clear he was actually going to buy Twitter. So my guess is it's related to the interests of whoever was benefiting from the old regime at Twitter.
        nojonestownpls 3y ago
        You don't have to go that far. Elon just got more involved in politics than before (or at least more publicly than before - all billionaires are probably influential in politics, just not so explicitly), and the best move in that game is not to play. Politics is a mind killer, and instant enemy-creator.
        d23 3y ago
        Not bot here. I don’t have enough digits to count the reasons I loathe him. I’ve yet to understand why the “media brainwashing” crowd never have a response to the very real argument that these types of people have made themselves so obnoxiously loud that you can’t help but see every one of the unfiltered thought they have — no third party media bias swaying the impression needed.
        8vectors 3y ago
        I guess I don't understand because I go weeks at a time without reading or hearing about something Elon said, and I don't loathe anyone.
      - decremental 3y ago
        It was exactly the moment the media started calling him a fascist for supporting free speech. I noticed the immediate transition of the rhetoric about Elon change here overnight.
    - thewataccount 3y ago
      Are you talking about starship? I'm not a big elon fan but that was objectively not a failed mission. They were very upfront that they expected it to destruct, and wanted to see how far it got. Their entire launch, navigation, communication, engine/fuel/structure, and the self-destruction teams/systems all performed, and they assuredly learned a ton from that - both sensor data - and other things such as concrete debris from the launch pad being a problem. From my understanding they were primarily were concerned about the launch stages and getting into an ascent and anything beyond that was icing on the cake. There was no payload, it's destination was to crash off the coast of hawaii.
  - greenhorn360 3y ago
    He can call himself an engineer but that doesn't mean he is one.
    - rscho 3y ago
      He's a full professor at Pretoria University, though...
      - greenhorn360 3y ago
        I can find no evidence for this claim. Care to enlighten me?
  - Zetice 3y ago
    Engineer, especially in rocket science, is a protected term, and I don't think Elon has obtained his PE, nor has he even gotten an informal education in the requisite engineering discipline. So I wouldn't call Elon an "engineer" per se.
    - the-dude 3y ago
      We are on a forum where everybody and their dog call themselves engineer. Whenever we feel like it, we just create disciplines on-the-fly.
    - sebzim4500 3y ago
      Have some respect you are talking to a prompt engineer right now. /s
    - peterfirefly 3y ago
      He most definitely has the latter.
dmix 3y ago
Took a while to find someone actually discussing the hire instead of the usual “is Musk an engineer” debate for the 1000x time on HN.

rscho 3y ago

Engineering is done by Elon?

sebzim4500 3y ago
I'd hope so, he is the lead engineer of a company which is currently on a ~200 mission long streak of successful missions to space. Figuring out how twitter should work seems easier than that.
- pprotas 3y ago
  Didn’t they blow up that huge rocket 2 weeks ago? Seems like there is some leeway in the definition of “successful mission” here xd
  - sebzim4500 3y ago
    Yeah I'm just considering actual missions where a customer is paying them to deliver something to space (crew or satellites). If you include tests then they obviously have a much worse record.
  - aik 3y ago
    Is your argument that SpaceX is a failure? Wow the slant in this entire thread. When did HN become such a fervent Elon hate machine. Honestly curious, is most of this from his actions at Twitter?
    - 8vectors 3y ago
      My guess is one or more of the billionaires that Elon pissed off started funding a persistent anti-elon narrative, and that has shown up as bot farms especially on reddit. Then people who don't think for themselves started propagating it wherever they go... Because of how fun it is to argue on the internet and all of that. It started as an anti Tesla narrative which was obviously paid for by the Tesla shorts, but this new supercharged anti Elon narrative ramped up when it started to become clear he was actually going to buy Twitter. So my guess is it's related to the interests of whoever was benefiting from the old regime at Twitter.
      - nojonestownpls 3y ago
        You don't have to go that far. Elon just got more involved in politics than before (or at least more publicly than before - all billionaires are probably influential in politics, just not so explicitly), and the best move in that game is not to play. Politics is a mind killer, and instant enemy-creator.
      - d23 3y ago
        Not bot here. I don’t have enough digits to count the reasons I loathe him. I’ve yet to understand why the “media brainwashing” crowd never have a response to the very real argument that these types of people have made themselves so obnoxiously loud that you can’t help but see every one of the unfiltered thought they have — no third party media bias swaying the impression needed.
        8vectors 3y ago
        I guess I don't understand because I go weeks at a time without reading or hearing about something Elon said, and I don't loathe anyone.
    - decremental 3y ago
      It was exactly the moment the media started calling him a fascist for supporting free speech. I noticed the immediate transition of the rhetoric about Elon change here overnight.
  - thewataccount 3y ago
    Are you talking about starship? I'm not a big elon fan but that was objectively not a failed mission. They were very upfront that they expected it to destruct, and wanted to see how far it got. Their entire launch, navigation, communication, engine/fuel/structure, and the self-destruction teams/systems all performed, and they assuredly learned a ton from that - both sensor data - and other things such as concrete debris from the launch pad being a problem. From my understanding they were primarily were concerned about the launch stages and getting into an ascent and anything beyond that was icing on the cake. There was no payload, it's destination was to crash off the coast of hawaii.
- greenhorn360 3y ago
  He can call himself an engineer but that doesn't mean he is one.
  - rscho 3y ago
    He's a full professor at Pretoria University, though...
    - greenhorn360 3y ago
      I can find no evidence for this claim. Care to enlighten me?
- Zetice 3y ago
  Engineer, especially in rocket science, is a protected term, and I don't think Elon has obtained his PE, nor has he even gotten an informal education in the requisite engineering discipline. So I wouldn't call Elon an "engineer" per se.
  - the-dude 3y ago
    We are on a forum where everybody and their dog call themselves engineer. Whenever we feel like it, we just create disciplines on-the-fly.
  - sebzim4500 3y ago
    Have some respect you are talking to a prompt engineer right now. /s
  - peterfirefly 3y ago
    He most definitely has the latter.

dmix 3y ago

Took a while to find someone actually discussing the hire instead of the usual “is Musk an engineer” debate for the 1000x time on HN.