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Sorry but I simply must ask; what were the hoops you had to jump through? I installed Fedora on my moderately recent thinkpad x13 (Ryzen 5850U w/ NVME, USB 3, a

by mouse_ 3y ago

Sorry but I simply must ask; what were the hoops you had to jump through? I installed Fedora on my moderately recent thinkpad x13 (Ryzen 5850U w/ NVME, USB 3, and all the new fixings) and it effectively "Just Werked", about as easily as installing Linux has been on all my machines since core 2 duo-ish.

VyseofArcadia 3y ago
We had to work around all the Secure Boot bullshit. It wasn't terrible once we figured out that was the problem, but when we expected it to just work, it turned into a lot of frustrated searching around on the internet to figure out why stuff wasn't working. https://www.xda-developers.com/dual-boot-windows-11-linux/ https://www.xda-developers.com/dual-boot-windows-11-linux/
- bheadmaster 3y ago
  I've found Ventoy [0] really great for automation of all those Secure Boot hoops. I remember my installation screen asking me if I want to setup the Secure Boot bullshit, I just said "yes" and everything worked fine. Plus, it can hold multiple distribution images (including Windows) and let you choose at runtime which one you want to install. You just paste the ISO file onto the filesystem (which is NTFS or exFAT or something, so there's no file size limit). And since that's an ordinary filesystem, you can also use the spare space to move any files between computers as if it was ordinary storage drive. [0] https://www.ventoy.net https://www.ventoy.net
  - VyseofArcadia 3y ago
    I'll be filing that away for future use, thanks! I think my point still stands, though. Users shouldn't have to work around secure boot. Secure boot is making Linux adoption more difficult for casual users for no good reason. If anyone has a use case for secure boot outside of an enterprise setting I'd love to hear it.
    - Matl 3y ago
      > Secure boot is making Linux adoption more difficult for casual users for no good reason. Agreed. I think the Steam Deck is also showing how important hardware with pre-installed Linux is.

by mouse_ 3y ago

VyseofArcadia 3y ago

We had to work around all the Secure Boot bullshit. It wasn't terrible once we figured out that was the problem, but when we expected it to just work, it turned into a lot of frustrated searching around on the internet to figure out why stuff wasn't working. https://www.xda-developers.com/dual-boot-windows-11-linux/ https://www.xda-developers.com/dual-boot-windows-11-linux/

bheadmaster 3y ago
I've found Ventoy [0] really great for automation of all those Secure Boot hoops. I remember my installation screen asking me if I want to setup the Secure Boot bullshit, I just said "yes" and everything worked fine. Plus, it can hold multiple distribution images (including Windows) and let you choose at runtime which one you want to install. You just paste the ISO file onto the filesystem (which is NTFS or exFAT or something, so there's no file size limit). And since that's an ordinary filesystem, you can also use the spare space to move any files between computers as if it was ordinary storage drive. [0] https://www.ventoy.net https://www.ventoy.net
- VyseofArcadia 3y ago
  I'll be filing that away for future use, thanks! I think my point still stands, though. Users shouldn't have to work around secure boot. Secure boot is making Linux adoption more difficult for casual users for no good reason. If anyone has a use case for secure boot outside of an enterprise setting I'd love to hear it.
  - Matl 3y ago
    > Secure boot is making Linux adoption more difficult for casual users for no good reason. Agreed. I think the Steam Deck is also showing how important hardware with pre-installed Linux is.