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Same for GDPR. Not a surprise all big tech is in US. If EU wants to play this card, US will get even stronger at keeping tech talent. (I reside neither in the

Same for GDPR. Not a surprise all big tech is in US. If EU wants to play this card, US will get even stronger at keeping tech talent. (I reside neither in the US or EU)

smarx007 3y ago
I didn't see any effect from GDPR on tech talent migration. Any source on this?!
- icepat 3y ago
  This, to me, sounds like personal opinion. Many developers in the EEA, while agreeing that it causes extra work, like the spirit of GDPR. The attitude (a generalisation) towards the American way of working with private data, is generally that it's unethical. It's not hard to find developers who are happy to, and want to, work within the framework.
- robswc 3y ago
  He probably means its just another factor in why there's very few startups/innovative companies in Europe. I did consulting and for a fair amount of projects where we had to block all European traffic while GDPR compliance was sorted out. There was almost never anything we had to actually do/change but the threat was looming and it was easier to just not take the risk.
  - smarx007 3y ago
    That's a totally legit way of "complying" with GDPR. An unacceptable way to do this is to present a consent screen that restricts access if consent is denied but allows access otherwise (looking at you, Washington Post, but at least they provide an option to pay for a privacy-respecting experience). Cf §43.2 https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-43/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-43/
hef19898 3y ago
Reducing everything, technology, economy and society, to software tech is such a pseudo-SV bubble thing, it is getting boring by now.
icepat 3y ago
> US will get even stronger at keeping tech talent Not necessarily the case. There's many reasons someone would leave the US (or North America in general) for the EU/EEA. The US is becoming less attractive to some given the current political weirdness. There's plenty of interesting work to be done in the EU and EEA that's not "hindered" by GDPR, and many developers who relocate to the EEA actually _like_ GDPR, and regulation aimed towards protecting individual rights. That, at least, is the case for me. Having had the opportunity to relocate anywhere, I ultimately picked the EEA.

Same for GDPR. Not a surprise all big tech is in US. If EU wants to play this card, US will get even stronger at keeping tech talent. (I reside neither in the US or EU)

smarx007 3y ago

I didn't see any effect from GDPR on tech talent migration. Any source on this?!

icepat 3y ago
This, to me, sounds like personal opinion. Many developers in the EEA, while agreeing that it causes extra work, like the spirit of GDPR. The attitude (a generalisation) towards the American way of working with private data, is generally that it's unethical. It's not hard to find developers who are happy to, and want to, work within the framework.
robswc 3y ago
He probably means its just another factor in why there's very few startups/innovative companies in Europe. I did consulting and for a fair amount of projects where we had to block all European traffic while GDPR compliance was sorted out. There was almost never anything we had to actually do/change but the threat was looming and it was easier to just not take the risk.
- smarx007 3y ago
  That's a totally legit way of "complying" with GDPR. An unacceptable way to do this is to present a consent screen that restricts access if consent is denied but allows access otherwise (looking at you, Washington Post, but at least they provide an option to pay for a privacy-respecting experience). Cf §43.2 https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-43/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-43/

hef19898 3y ago

Reducing everything, technology, economy and society, to software tech is such a pseudo-SV bubble thing, it is getting boring by now.

icepat 3y ago

> US will get even stronger at keeping tech talent Not necessarily the case. There's many reasons someone would leave the US (or North America in general) for the EU/EEA. The US is becoming less attractive to some given the current political weirdness. There's plenty of interesting work to be done in the EU and EEA that's not "hindered" by GDPR, and many developers who relocate to the EEA actually _like_ GDPR, and regulation aimed towards protecting individual rights. That, at least, is the case for me. Having had the opportunity to relocate anywhere, I ultimately picked the EEA.