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The 20 years is not for crashing his plane, but for "one count of destruction and concealment with the intent to obstruct a federal investigation"
by wartijn_ 3y ago
The 20 years is not for crashing his plane, but for "one count of destruction and concealment with the intent to obstruct a federal investigation"
- jstanley 3y ago[flagged]
- eppp 3y agoWe all are. Pests like this are a drain on our entire government and society. How many hours have been wasted on this stupid stunt that was entirely his doing for no reason at all. He then tried to cover it up and lied about it. He wasted our time this morning reading about it again because he is a selfish liar.
- byyyy 3y agoHe's asking about victims that were slaughtered. Your "time wasted" is not significant at all. Perhaps I should be sent to jail for wasting your time with this reply.
- jameshart 3y agoyou can’t have rules where it’s okay to break them if nobody gets hurt. You can’t have investigative agencies where it’s okay to lie and obstruct them so long as there was no harm done. If you skip the penalties in a case like this, you encourage people to do the very things your regulations exist to prevent if they think they it probably won’t harm anyone. You’re not allowed to deliberately crash a plane without telling the FAA. You’re certainly not allowed to do it into random public land. You’re not allowed to send a plane out of control deliberately. Those are incredibly dangerous things to do. If you do those things and are lucky enough not to start a wildfire or kill anyone then there still have to be consequences. And if you try to avoid those consequences then that needs to be punished too.
- byyyy 3y agoA wild fire has a slim chance of happening and so does a death of a bystander when you crash a plane into unpopulated forest. The danger is so minimal here that what he did is clearly will not lead to accidental injury or deaths of others. It's Just stupid, like a person who road rages and rams into a parked car, unoccupied car. The consequences here should be a fine and loss of pilots license. Jail time isn't even a discussion here.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- kayfox 3y agoI don't know if you haven't noticed, but California has been having massive wildfires in the same area for years now.
- byyyy 3y agoThis idea that crashed cars or small planes explode in a ball of fire is from Hollywood. When a car or small plane crashes it just crumbles into hunks of metal debris. It has no relationship to the concept of fire starting. Every action done here is completely orthogonal to fire risk and completely independent of the fire risk of the region. Under your logic Making an illegal campfire is much much more of a crime here. And this logic makes more sense to me.
- jameshart 3y agohttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/27/plane-fires-crashes-deaths/16530225/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/27/plane-... https://www.skybrary.aero/articles/light-aircraft-post-crash-fires https://www.skybrary.aero/articles/light-aircraft-post-crash...
- byyyy 3y agoOnly a ratio of 0.04 of accidents resulted in a post-impact fire. Again to reiterate my point. It's rare.
- gabereiser 3y agoThe government. He’s charged with obstructing a federal investigation et al. and if he gets max sentence he’ll spend maybe 7 in jail.
- intrasight 3y agoJustice is the victim in an obstruction of justice case.
- byyyy 3y ago[flagged]
- thisGuyFlicks 3y agoAll of us that pay taxes. All of us that would get higher insurance premiums (if he got away with it) as a result of his stunt.
- frumper 3y agoIf he makes an insurance claim, that sounds like insurance fraud. That is a very real crime with a victim. Did that happen and why isn't that the headline?
- hef19898 3y agoYou do not consent, do you?