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Climate change may be making turbulence worse
- throwaway202303 3y agoanecdote professor with agenda some more anecdotes no real evidence that the problem is increasing or that it will get bad enough to have any effect on air travel seems like a great npr story, i do hope they raise my carbon tax
- sremani 3y agomaking up news is easier than reporting news. we are in that cycle. Once trust-fund babies took over media, it is just part of the activist-industrial culture. We will tell those plebs what's good for them.
- starkd 3y agoThey did reference satellite data. However, I do not know to what extent satellite data can show turbulence. The article implied a total cause, but I suspect its a bit more complex. Not sure how you would tell if its more common. I remember people complaining about turbulence for as long as I can remember. Maybe people's expectations about flight safety are just higher now, because planes offer a better experience.
- secondcoming 3y agoI normally quite enjoy turbulence, but I've never experienced it so bad that items fly around the cabin, only so bad that I've witnessed other passengers grip the seat in front of them for dear life.
- jacquesm 3y agoI've been in heavy turbulence and trust me you won't enjoy it.
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- giarc 3y agoInteresting thought on what would work to persuade even the most staunch anti-climate change person. Obviously increase floods, hurricanes, forest fires, heat waves etc won't work. Imagine if it was something like crazy bumpy plane rides that finally convinces the last hold outs?
- saiya-jin 3y agoWhere rationality left only emotions rule, and populists know damn well how to use people's fears and other negative emotions to to milk them for either money or power... don't expect solving this would be so trivial, its more on the evolution of mankind as whole scale, or at least massively improving education with strong focus on less intelligent part of population
- starkd 3y agoCorporate marketing departments have been pretty adept at promoting their products on the backs of this science. They are far from unintelligent. Populists, for all their deficiencies, are fairly adept at eventually detecting marketing ploys and gimmicks.
- junofan 3y agoI think the reason people aren’t on board with climate change is that the solutions presented are not appealing.
- starkd 3y agoPlus the solutions are narrow in scope. For instance, we are led to believe that it will be solved if only we all buy electric cars. It might help for certain areas, but it is far from a complete solution. It comes off as a corporate grift.
- giarc 3y agoDo they need to be appealing? I think our focus should be on energy generation change (phase out coal, nat gas etc). I don't notice if the electricity running into my home comes from green sources (nuclear, wind, solar) or black (?) sources (coal, nat gas). I guess the 'appealing' part comes from the cost. At this point, it seems like green sources are cheaper, we should be building like crazy (I know that to an extend we are).
- trilbyglens 3y agoA few years ago I was flying to the us from Europe and we were in turbulence for more than 3 hours. That _sucked_. The plane was moving up and down more than 3 meters every few seconds. I'm sure half the passengers were vomiting during that flight. Thanks northern Canada.
- rationalist 3y agohttps://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/turbulence_stuff/turbulence/turbulence.htm https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/turbule... This is a good resource on how turbulence forms and the different classifications of turbulence.