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When I read articles like this, I can’t help but think that the author takes it for granted that humans are destined to exist.

by nkrisc 3y ago

teekert 3y ago
Maybe we aren't, but the deeply ingrained believe that we are may certainly be useful. I hate lies or partial truths, but if the full truth is incomprehensible by our intellects, the best we can do is live with and by models and mantra's that are helpful in making the now a nice place to be. Not that we should even give up the search for more truth, at least, that's one of my mantras.
Dudeman112 3y ago
What do you mean? Looks to me like you are reacting to the title instead of the article I expected the standard anti-medicine fare from the title, but got neat biological investigation/hacking instead. That was an interesting read
ragingrobot 3y ago
If I read your comment right, I fully agree. We take it for granted, we believe that we have the right to exist. At every turn we're trying to defeat death and illness. Trying to defeat nature's (and the planet's) mechanisms of a form of population control. Then on the other hand, we sort of complain about overpopulation. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see people die, but on the other hand I fully understand that we must die. Me must get ill.
- Dudeman112 3y ago
  >I don't want to see people die, but on the other hand I fully understand that we must die Those are not mutually compatible Well, unless you take some esoteric interpretation where one can be absolved from the immediate implications of what they think are the most desirable states for the universe If one considers it necessary for people to die, one wants people to die. It's part of the whole considering death necessary
  - aflag 3y ago
    Some people don't want to go to work. Yet, they do because they feel it's necessary.
  - ragingrobot 3y ago
    You are right of course, it was just a poorly worded (of which I could find no better) attempt at saying "listen, I'm not a heartless d**, either."
darkwater 3y ago
We are not destined, we just want to exist, just like every other animal (well, maybe there are some exceptions).

When I read articles like this, I can’t help but think that the author takes it for granted that humans are destined to exist.

by nkrisc 3y ago

When I read articles like this, I can’t help but think that the author takes it for granted that humans are destined to exist.

teekert 3y ago

Maybe we aren't, but the deeply ingrained believe that we are may certainly be useful. I hate lies or partial truths, but if the full truth is incomprehensible by our intellects, the best we can do is live with and by models and mantra's that are helpful in making the now a nice place to be. Not that we should even give up the search for more truth, at least, that's one of my mantras.

Dudeman112 3y ago

What do you mean? Looks to me like you are reacting to the title instead of the article I expected the standard anti-medicine fare from the title, but got neat biological investigation/hacking instead. That was an interesting read

ragingrobot 3y ago

If I read your comment right, I fully agree. We take it for granted, we believe that we have the right to exist. At every turn we're trying to defeat death and illness. Trying to defeat nature's (and the planet's) mechanisms of a form of population control. Then on the other hand, we sort of complain about overpopulation. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see people die, but on the other hand I fully understand that we must die. Me must get ill.

Dudeman112 3y ago
>I don't want to see people die, but on the other hand I fully understand that we must die Those are not mutually compatible Well, unless you take some esoteric interpretation where one can be absolved from the immediate implications of what they think are the most desirable states for the universe If one considers it necessary for people to die, one wants people to die. It's part of the whole considering death necessary
- aflag 3y ago
  Some people don't want to go to work. Yet, they do because they feel it's necessary.
- ragingrobot 3y ago
  You are right of course, it was just a poorly worded (of which I could find no better) attempt at saying "listen, I'm not a heartless d**, either."

darkwater 3y ago

We are not destined, we just want to exist, just like every other animal (well, maybe there are some exceptions).