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Actually this is resolved entirely, just outside North America. It's incredibly frustrating when North American companies decide thingsike a 34" waist is 36" in

by cik 3y ago

Actually this is resolved entirely, just outside North America. It's incredibly frustrating when North American companies decide thingsike a 34" waist is 36" in one brand and 34" in another - don't get me started about inconsistencies within the brand itself - which is how I used to solve this. Just buy European sized things. Sizes are sizes They're clear. They're clear to the point of your having a ability to measure yourself and always get what you're trying to get. Heck, many of these sites just publish a complete sizing guide, so that you can measure yourself. My introduction to this, having moved from north America, has been eye opening. The standardization has eliminated any chance I ever try a North American made item now.

usrbinbash 3y ago
While that is true, many companies over here sell american made brands clothes and those are still, for some unfathomable reason, using the original measurements, starting with waist sizes in inches, which in my personal experience can mean anything from: "Fits as intended" to "Could be used as cover for a Jet Engine".
Broken_Hippo 3y ago
This doesn't help. I live in northern Europe. I usually buy pants in the store so that I can try them on. I have to try on every single pair, even if they are the same size, style, color, and are sitting on top of each other on a table. The sizes within the same garment aren't consistent, let alone the sizing in different stores. Not to mention that some places only put the European sizes on sites for the European market after using a conversion from whatever sizing system they happen to use. You generally aren't getting a different manufacturer by avoiding a "north american made" item.
alpaca128 3y ago
> Actually this is resolved entirely, just outside North America. I'm European and I have no idea what you're talking about. This simply isn't true, and cannot be true even in theory because our bodies are three-dimensional and clothing sizes are usually single numbers/letters. A single size number will always be insufficient - 95% of jeans that fit my waist are too short and there's no way to know other than trying them. Same with shirts. I can try two shoes in the same size from the same brand and only one fits because the other one was designed for stick figure feet. One of my shoes is size 43, another is size 45 and they're literally the same size. People like making fun of imperial units but what actually deserves all this ridicule and more is the nonsensical chaos that is clothing sizes, numbers that the manufacturers seem to get via dice rolls.

by cik 3y ago

usrbinbash 3y ago

While that is true, many companies over here sell american made brands clothes and those are still, for some unfathomable reason, using the original measurements, starting with waist sizes in inches, which in my personal experience can mean anything from: "Fits as intended" to "Could be used as cover for a Jet Engine".

Broken_Hippo 3y ago

This doesn't help. I live in northern Europe. I usually buy pants in the store so that I can try them on. I have to try on every single pair, even if they are the same size, style, color, and are sitting on top of each other on a table. The sizes within the same garment aren't consistent, let alone the sizing in different stores. Not to mention that some places only put the European sizes on sites for the European market after using a conversion from whatever sizing system they happen to use. You generally aren't getting a different manufacturer by avoiding a "north american made" item.

alpaca128 3y ago

> Actually this is resolved entirely, just outside North America. I'm European and I have no idea what you're talking about. This simply isn't true, and cannot be true even in theory because our bodies are three-dimensional and clothing sizes are usually single numbers/letters. A single size number will always be insufficient - 95% of jeans that fit my waist are too short and there's no way to know other than trying them. Same with shirts. I can try two shoes in the same size from the same brand and only one fits because the other one was designed for stick figure feet. One of my shoes is size 43, another is size 45 and they're literally the same size. People like making fun of imperial units but what actually deserves all this ridicule and more is the nonsensical chaos that is clothing sizes, numbers that the manufacturers seem to get via dice rolls.