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Apple isn't good at charging. There's a lot of aspect they excel, graphic design, ergonomics, material etc. Charging has never been their forte. I present as e

Apple isn't good at charging. There's a lot of aspect they excel, graphic design, ergonomics, material etc. Charging has never been their forte. I present as evidence: - the original humongous 31 pin ipod cable - the harpooned mouse - the wireless charging mat they never could deliver - the first Apple pencil (and its usb-c charging cable...) - their previous gen desktop keyboards charging over lightning Their only great charging idea was probably magsafe for laptops.

nobrains 3y ago
And (from greats), iphone magsafe wireless magnetic charging.
alpaca128 3y ago
- the iPhone battery case with the battery bump on the back
- qup 3y ago
  If I recall this was like eighty bucks and guaranteed to break your charging port within ten days.
bryanrasmussen 3y ago
>Apple isn't good at charging. They're pretty good at changing how you charge every few years and charging you for that change though.
- SiempreViernes 3y ago
  I'd reword that as: Can't agree: Cupertino constantly changes charging copling and consequently can charge for that change.
  - bryanrasmussen 3y ago
    I think mine was more nicely balanced, but I suppose the increase in alliteration may be worth it.
- drcongo 3y ago
  Lightning out-lived micro USB, two types of mini USB and a thousand proprietary device specific connectors. What are you talking about?
  - nikanj 3y ago
    Apple bad -HN
  - raisedbyninjas 3y ago
    Lightning was put on the iPhone in 2012. Other phone manufacturers switched to micro-USB in 2009 at the behest of the EU. Apple even released a micro-USB -> 30 pin connector to comply with the law. Digital cameras, and other devices do have a habit of picking other connectors.
    - olyjohn 3y ago
      There were two 30 pin connectors by the way. I had to get an adapter to use my 3g iPhone on an older car stereo that supported iPods. All it did was flip a couple of the pins around.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  Are they? There have been two iPhone charge cables, and the original was the iPod charger. How many have been used by other companies? That mouse charger is ludicrous. Worst apple design ever?
  - dna_polymerase 3y ago
    The fact that there are multiple charge cables shows how good Apple is at charging.
    - bierjunge 3y ago
      Apple is great at charging? No, they are not. I have a 2019 Macbook Pro with an Intel i9. When working, the i9 pretty much gets throttled down to the performance of an i5 because the thermal design is terrible, but it's a different story. But even when the CPU get throttled down, my battery gets discharged while being connected to the most performant Apple charger (96W). An no, the laptop is not faulty, I can reproduce it with a second Macbook with exactly the same specs. And when I'm not using the original Apple charger, because I have a nice monitor with PD over USB-C, the Macbook regularly refuses to charge, not always, but every single time when I need it to charge. No other device has any issues with the monitor (tested with a Acer R13 Chromebook, Pixel 6 phone, Lenovo/Dell/Acer/Asus laptops, Lenovo Yoga Tab 13 Tablet, Steam Deck, etc.) Edit: PD output of the monitor is also at ~96W
      - drekipus 3y ago
        You're missing the joke. They are good at charging you money
      - scarface74 3y ago
        > I have a 2019 Macbook Pro with an Intel i9 I have a work Arm based MacBook Pro that last at least 12 hours on battery, never gets hot, I have never heard the fan, etc.
      - nikitoci 3y ago
        I guess that parent comment was a joke about charging money...
- wodenokoto 3y ago
  If you consider a decade a few years, sure.
- Uehreka 3y ago
  Oh it’s you! The hypothetical person who gets mad about a once-in-a-decade charger change! I’ve heard so much about you in every discussion ever about why Apple hasn’t moved the iPhone to USB-C, you’re very influential.
wouldbecouldbe 3y ago
The magsafe laptop charger is my favorite charger, the switch the USB c had my laptop flying at least once. Good decision they want back.
krger 3y ago
>- the original humongous 31 pin iPod cable The first two iPod models had a 6-pin FireWire port. It wasn't until the third generation that they introduced the 30-pin connector that worked with both FireWire and USB on the PC side to introduce Windows compatibility.
- olyjohn 3y ago
  And then they changed the spec on the 31 pin connector half way through it's life. I had an iPod ready car stereo back in the day, and it required an adapter to use my iPhone even though they were both the same physical connector. Fuckin stereo was expensive back then especially one with iPod integration. I had the thing for maybe 2 years at the most. Felt pretty burned by that one.
starkparker 3y ago
> Their only great charging idea was probably magsafe for laptops. And even then they botched the gen 1 magsafe connector joint's design so badly it resulted in a lawsuit and settlement to replace every one of them.
futhey 3y ago
Day 1 user of the Apple Watch. I hated Gen 1. But I have the most vivid memory of the magnetic wireless charging solution it came with. It felt novel and ahead of its time.

nobrains 3y ago

And (from greats), iphone magsafe wireless magnetic charging.

alpaca128 3y ago

- the iPhone battery case with the battery bump on the back

qup 3y ago
If I recall this was like eighty bucks and guaranteed to break your charging port within ten days.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

>Apple isn't good at charging. They're pretty good at changing how you charge every few years and charging you for that change though.

SiempreViernes 3y ago
I'd reword that as: Can't agree: Cupertino constantly changes charging copling and consequently can charge for that change.
- bryanrasmussen 3y ago
  I think mine was more nicely balanced, but I suppose the increase in alliteration may be worth it.
drcongo 3y ago
Lightning out-lived micro USB, two types of mini USB and a thousand proprietary device specific connectors. What are you talking about?
- nikanj 3y ago
  Apple bad -HN
- raisedbyninjas 3y ago
  Lightning was put on the iPhone in 2012. Other phone manufacturers switched to micro-USB in 2009 at the behest of the EU. Apple even released a micro-USB -> 30 pin connector to comply with the law. Digital cameras, and other devices do have a habit of picking other connectors.
  - olyjohn 3y ago
    There were two 30 pin connectors by the way. I had to get an adapter to use my 3g iPhone on an older car stereo that supported iPods. All it did was flip a couple of the pins around.
lostlogin 3y ago
Are they? There have been two iPhone charge cables, and the original was the iPod charger. How many have been used by other companies? That mouse charger is ludicrous. Worst apple design ever?
- dna_polymerase 3y ago
  The fact that there are multiple charge cables shows how good Apple is at charging.
  - bierjunge 3y ago
    Apple is great at charging? No, they are not. I have a 2019 Macbook Pro with an Intel i9. When working, the i9 pretty much gets throttled down to the performance of an i5 because the thermal design is terrible, but it's a different story. But even when the CPU get throttled down, my battery gets discharged while being connected to the most performant Apple charger (96W). An no, the laptop is not faulty, I can reproduce it with a second Macbook with exactly the same specs. And when I'm not using the original Apple charger, because I have a nice monitor with PD over USB-C, the Macbook regularly refuses to charge, not always, but every single time when I need it to charge. No other device has any issues with the monitor (tested with a Acer R13 Chromebook, Pixel 6 phone, Lenovo/Dell/Acer/Asus laptops, Lenovo Yoga Tab 13 Tablet, Steam Deck, etc.) Edit: PD output of the monitor is also at ~96W
    - drekipus 3y ago
      You're missing the joke. They are good at charging you money
    - scarface74 3y ago
      > I have a 2019 Macbook Pro with an Intel i9 I have a work Arm based MacBook Pro that last at least 12 hours on battery, never gets hot, I have never heard the fan, etc.
    - nikitoci 3y ago
      I guess that parent comment was a joke about charging money...
wodenokoto 3y ago
If you consider a decade a few years, sure.
Uehreka 3y ago
Oh it’s you! The hypothetical person who gets mad about a once-in-a-decade charger change! I’ve heard so much about you in every discussion ever about why Apple hasn’t moved the iPhone to USB-C, you’re very influential.

wouldbecouldbe 3y ago

The magsafe laptop charger is my favorite charger, the switch the USB c had my laptop flying at least once. Good decision they want back.

krger 3y ago

>- the original humongous 31 pin iPod cable The first two iPod models had a 6-pin FireWire port. It wasn't until the third generation that they introduced the 30-pin connector that worked with both FireWire and USB on the PC side to introduce Windows compatibility.

olyjohn 3y ago
And then they changed the spec on the 31 pin connector half way through it's life. I had an iPod ready car stereo back in the day, and it required an adapter to use my iPhone even though they were both the same physical connector. Fuckin stereo was expensive back then especially one with iPod integration. I had the thing for maybe 2 years at the most. Felt pretty burned by that one.

starkparker 3y ago

> Their only great charging idea was probably magsafe for laptops. And even then they botched the gen 1 magsafe connector joint's design so badly it resulted in a lawsuit and settlement to replace every one of them.

futhey 3y ago

Day 1 user of the Apple Watch. I hated Gen 1. But I have the most vivid memory of the magnetic wireless charging solution it came with. It felt novel and ahead of its time.