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BOTW was almost perfect, but the weapon breaking system left me so tired of managing it. What a constant distraction! I get that they wanted to encourage experi

by voz_ 3y ago

BOTW was almost perfect, but the weapon breaking system left me so tired of managing it. What a constant distraction! I get that they wanted to encourage experimentation, but they overtuned it, and it became a chore. If TOTK has the same system, I'm returning it.

shortcake27 3y ago
I just rushed the Master Sword and lived with the cooldown. Been a while but don’t remember being too frustrated about it.
- tinco 3y ago
  How can you rush the master sword? It requires a ridiculous amount of hearts and even if you have it it breaks so quickly.
  - lhl 3y ago
    There's a method (speed running glitch) to get the master sword w/o the heart requirement. Do a search for "botw get the master sword early" and you should have lots of step by steps if you ever want to do it.
  - otikik 3y ago
    There's the statue that allows changing stamina for hearts. Once you have ~10 hearts, you can get the last 3 or so by temporarily switching them with the statue. That helps. Also, the Trials of the Sword (expansion optional adventure) make the master sword do more damage. It should last longer, as you need to use less strikes with it.
gambiting 3y ago
I actually liked that system, and yes it's also present in TOTK. I'm worried about something else personally - the whole system of building things with random parts looks extremely janky. I was hoping it's only going to be required to solve a few puzzles and that's it, but according to some reviews the entire world is designed around you building this stuff. Well, I'm going to have a try this weekend, but it might end up on eBay by Monday :/
- pansa2 3y ago
  Yeah, I’m really hoping TOTK isn’t half BOTW and half Minecraft.
dtech 3y ago
Same. I finished BOTW, but while I'm slightly curious about TOTK, I really have no appetite to return to the same combat loop, especially due to weapon durability preventing me from just picking a style and sticking with it. Maybe if the Master Sword is easy to get... The sandbox stuff sounds amazing in a Minecraft/Garry's Mod kinda way, but those never caught me so I hope it brings joy to many others.
Auracle 3y ago
TOTK has the same system but the weapon durability is greatly increased. My stash has been full the entire game so far and I regularly throw weapons away just to try new ones.
month13 3y ago
On its own, it's arguably probably worse. There are a few improvements, you start out with a larger inventory and you are showered with parts to use with fuse. I do not see what Nintendo sees that this system added to the game.
manojlds 3y ago
There's fusion now. Makes durability interesting.
AceJohnny2 3y ago
The game design analysis was that it ties in to the open-world system. If you're good/lucky enough to pick up a powerful weapon early on, it still won't carry you for the rest of the game. As it is, I still end up buying ever more sword slots because I always have more than I can really use.
- statictype 3y ago
  You can buy sword slots in BOTW? I thought its only through the seeds?
  - AceJohnny2 3y ago
    That's what I mean. "buying" them with korok seeds.
- tomgp 3y ago
  Yes! It also means privileging exploration over combat and discouraging min/max type character builds. I think it's a really great addition and ditching it would make BOTW a very different (and IMO much worse) game
lhl 3y ago
It does have the same system so I guess you should return it/cancel your order. Like BOTW, even from the very beginning of the game, you never run out of weapons/always have more weapons than slots, so for anyone else, I'd recommend not worrying about it. There's a new modding mechanic that makes swapping around weapons even more fun now.
otikik 3y ago
(talking from the videos alone, I don't own the new game just yet) It does have the same weapon breaking system. A video showed a stick breaking after hitting an enemy long enough. But You have a new "combination" power now. The same video showed that you could combine the stick with a stone. It was mentioned that "this is more durable". Perhaps one can keep combining stones to a weapon in order to increase durability? We will see.
wodenokoto 3y ago
I completely disagree. The master sword is the most boring weapon. Yes, it does suffer from the “never use my best item cuz I might need it later”-issue that you also have in final fantasy. I just ended up storing my best weapons in my house on display.
patrickk 3y ago
There’s mods[1] for the Cemu version that removes the weapons breaking system [1] https://gamebanana.com/mods/49493 https://gamebanana.com/mods/49493
Karawebnetwork 3y ago
It took me forever to figure it out and I only recently noticed it after I put the game away shortly after its release, but: if you perform a shield parry, the enemy will drop his weapon. You can then pick it up. This means you can go into a fight with no weapon and only a shield and end up being the one with the weapon fighting an unarmed enemy.
- sbelskie 3y ago
  You can also use shock arrows IIRC to stun enemies and make drop their (metal) weapons.

by voz_ 3y ago

shortcake27 3y ago

I just rushed the Master Sword and lived with the cooldown. Been a while but don’t remember being too frustrated about it.

tinco 3y ago
How can you rush the master sword? It requires a ridiculous amount of hearts and even if you have it it breaks so quickly.
- lhl 3y ago
  There's a method (speed running glitch) to get the master sword w/o the heart requirement. Do a search for "botw get the master sword early" and you should have lots of step by steps if you ever want to do it.
- otikik 3y ago
  There's the statue that allows changing stamina for hearts. Once you have ~10 hearts, you can get the last 3 or so by temporarily switching them with the statue. That helps. Also, the Trials of the Sword (expansion optional adventure) make the master sword do more damage. It should last longer, as you need to use less strikes with it.

gambiting 3y ago

I actually liked that system, and yes it's also present in TOTK. I'm worried about something else personally - the whole system of building things with random parts looks extremely janky. I was hoping it's only going to be required to solve a few puzzles and that's it, but according to some reviews the entire world is designed around you building this stuff. Well, I'm going to have a try this weekend, but it might end up on eBay by Monday :/

pansa2 3y ago
Yeah, I’m really hoping TOTK isn’t half BOTW and half Minecraft.

dtech 3y ago

Same. I finished BOTW, but while I'm slightly curious about TOTK, I really have no appetite to return to the same combat loop, especially due to weapon durability preventing me from just picking a style and sticking with it. Maybe if the Master Sword is easy to get... The sandbox stuff sounds amazing in a Minecraft/Garry's Mod kinda way, but those never caught me so I hope it brings joy to many others.

Auracle 3y ago

TOTK has the same system but the weapon durability is greatly increased. My stash has been full the entire game so far and I regularly throw weapons away just to try new ones.

month13 3y ago

On its own, it's arguably probably worse. There are a few improvements, you start out with a larger inventory and you are showered with parts to use with fuse. I do not see what Nintendo sees that this system added to the game.

manojlds 3y ago

There's fusion now. Makes durability interesting.

AceJohnny2 3y ago

The game design analysis was that it ties in to the open-world system. If you're good/lucky enough to pick up a powerful weapon early on, it still won't carry you for the rest of the game. As it is, I still end up buying ever more sword slots because I always have more than I can really use.

statictype 3y ago
You can buy sword slots in BOTW? I thought its only through the seeds?
- AceJohnny2 3y ago
  That's what I mean. "buying" them with korok seeds.
tomgp 3y ago
Yes! It also means privileging exploration over combat and discouraging min/max type character builds. I think it's a really great addition and ditching it would make BOTW a very different (and IMO much worse) game

lhl 3y ago

It does have the same system so I guess you should return it/cancel your order. Like BOTW, even from the very beginning of the game, you never run out of weapons/always have more weapons than slots, so for anyone else, I'd recommend not worrying about it. There's a new modding mechanic that makes swapping around weapons even more fun now.

otikik 3y ago

(talking from the videos alone, I don't own the new game just yet) It does have the same weapon breaking system. A video showed a stick breaking after hitting an enemy long enough. But You have a new "combination" power now. The same video showed that you could combine the stick with a stone. It was mentioned that "this is more durable". Perhaps one can keep combining stones to a weapon in order to increase durability? We will see.

wodenokoto 3y ago

I completely disagree. The master sword is the most boring weapon. Yes, it does suffer from the “never use my best item cuz I might need it later”-issue that you also have in final fantasy. I just ended up storing my best weapons in my house on display.

patrickk 3y ago

There’s mods[1] for the Cemu version that removes the weapons breaking system [1] https://gamebanana.com/mods/49493 https://gamebanana.com/mods/49493

Karawebnetwork 3y ago

It took me forever to figure it out and I only recently noticed it after I put the game away shortly after its release, but: if you perform a shield parry, the enemy will drop his weapon. You can then pick it up. This means you can go into a fight with no weapon and only a shield and end up being the one with the weapon fighting an unarmed enemy.

sbelskie 3y ago
You can also use shock arrows IIRC to stun enemies and make drop their (metal) weapons.