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> Android tablets generally feel overpriced right now for what they offer compared to Apple's ecosystem. Is this a US-only thing? I have not been actively look

> Android tablets generally feel overpriced right now for what they offer compared to Apple's ecosystem. Is this a US-only thing? I have not been actively looking into the latest Android offering, but I got my sister a Xiaomi Pad 5 [1] two years ago, which I believe delivered much more value at that time compared to the latest iPad 10.2 I owned, at a slightly cheaper price too. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/xiaomi-gets-back-into-android-tablets-with-an-ipad-pro-clone/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/xiaomi-gets-back-int...

not_your_vase 3y ago
I'm in Europe, and also believe that iPads are unbeatable when talking about price - in both nominal and price/value ratio sense. I have been an iPad user for over a decade. 2 years ago I was shopping for a new tablet. I went to a local electronics shop trying some of them out: the affordable (~300 EUR for me) Lenovo, Huawei and Samsung ones all stuttered even in their own setting menu. The high end Samsungs were nice - starting at 600EUR. Settled for a base iPad for 300 EUR. I hate Apple, but iPads are literally cheap, have good performance, and offer more than magnified phone applications, even with the crappy iOS.
- theshrike79 3y ago
  And iPads get about 5 years of major version updates. The 600€ high end Samsung will maybe get one Android OS update.
  - grumpyprole 3y ago
    This is FUD. Samsung promise 5 years of security updates and 4 OS updates: https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-sets-the-new-standard-with-four-generations-of-os-upgrades-to-ensure-the-most-up-to-date-and-more-secure-galaxy-experience https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-sets-the-new-standar...
    - theshrike79 3y ago
      It's not FUD. Apple has _delivered_ updates for multiple generations of devices for 5+ years. Samsung has promised to update for 4 OS versions. They haven't delivered anything yet. We'll see in 2027 if they can actually deliver.
      - gmhafiz 3y ago
        I had Samsung s9+ in 2018 and I did have monthly security upgrades up until 2022 when I had it. Their promise was 5 years of security upgrades. I also had the latest Android version. iirc they promised 3 years of OS upgrades
      - dpatterbee 3y ago
        Casting fear, uncertainty and doubt over a manufacturers claims is literally what FUD stands for. And that's what you're doing.
      - layer8 3y ago
        This topic will probably resolve itself from 2025 on when the EU will start requiring 5 years of software updates.
- grumpyprole 3y ago
  > I'm in Europe, and also believe that iPads are unbeatable when talking about price - in both nominal and price/value ratio sense The problem with iPad is that if you want a larger screen you have to get the very expensive iPad Pro. For large screen sizes, the Android ecosystem is much better value.
- bacro 3y ago
  iPad still has huge disadvantages to me: - Android tablets have the Opera browser which has text reflow functionality which works much much better than anything else. This is a huge deal for me. - I can access the file system and do whatever I want with it. - I still like notifications more in Android vs iPadOS. If it were not for these things, I would buy an iPad in a heartbeat.

not_your_vase 3y ago

I'm in Europe, and also believe that iPads are unbeatable when talking about price - in both nominal and price/value ratio sense. I have been an iPad user for over a decade. 2 years ago I was shopping for a new tablet. I went to a local electronics shop trying some of them out: the affordable (~300 EUR for me) Lenovo, Huawei and Samsung ones all stuttered even in their own setting menu. The high end Samsungs were nice - starting at 600EUR. Settled for a base iPad for 300 EUR. I hate Apple, but iPads are literally cheap, have good performance, and offer more than magnified phone applications, even with the crappy iOS.

theshrike79 3y ago
And iPads get about 5 years of major version updates. The 600€ high end Samsung will maybe get one Android OS update.
- grumpyprole 3y ago
  This is FUD. Samsung promise 5 years of security updates and 4 OS updates: https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-sets-the-new-standard-with-four-generations-of-os-upgrades-to-ensure-the-most-up-to-date-and-more-secure-galaxy-experience https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-sets-the-new-standar...
  - theshrike79 3y ago
    It's not FUD. Apple has _delivered_ updates for multiple generations of devices for 5+ years. Samsung has promised to update for 4 OS versions. They haven't delivered anything yet. We'll see in 2027 if they can actually deliver.
    - gmhafiz 3y ago
      I had Samsung s9+ in 2018 and I did have monthly security upgrades up until 2022 when I had it. Their promise was 5 years of security upgrades. I also had the latest Android version. iirc they promised 3 years of OS upgrades
    - dpatterbee 3y ago
      Casting fear, uncertainty and doubt over a manufacturers claims is literally what FUD stands for. And that's what you're doing.
    - layer8 3y ago
      This topic will probably resolve itself from 2025 on when the EU will start requiring 5 years of software updates.
grumpyprole 3y ago
> I'm in Europe, and also believe that iPads are unbeatable when talking about price - in both nominal and price/value ratio sense The problem with iPad is that if you want a larger screen you have to get the very expensive iPad Pro. For large screen sizes, the Android ecosystem is much better value.
bacro 3y ago
iPad still has huge disadvantages to me: - Android tablets have the Opera browser which has text reflow functionality which works much much better than anything else. This is a huge deal for me. - I can access the file system and do whatever I want with it. - I still like notifications more in Android vs iPadOS. If it were not for these things, I would buy an iPad in a heartbeat.