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And also by strongly implying that ALL drug use is drug abuse.

• LoganDark 4y ago
  Yep... drugs are powerful substances that deserve to be treated with respect, but past that, it's possible to use them responsibly. The fact that some substances are just indiscriminately illegal is just... upsetting. Especially since even things like LSD are lumped into that "Schedule I" despite being... extremely safe? Given you're properly informed and prepared for the experience, of course. Only an example, but it's a particularly personal example.
• bigfudge 4y ago
  Not all drug use. Alcohol is “fine”.
  • LoganDark 4y ago
    So're caffeine and nicotine, which I'm disappointed are so normalized in society. Especially nicotine.
    • ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      Why caffeine? I don't remember caffeine addicts harming society.
      • LoganDark 4y ago
        I just think it's a bit sad how "don't talk to me before my morning coffee" and etc. is normalized just because so many people have that problem. Some people legitimately need the caffeine just like some people legitimately need ADHD medication, but some people became dependent on caffeine when they didn't necessarily have to be.
        • ChuckNorris89 4y ago
          Sure. But shouldn't it be left to the individual? People being cranky in the morning is nothing compared to the damage alcohol or drugs do to society. I don't drink coffee to wake up, I wake up to drink coffee. Let me have my foamy cappuccino and the glorious poop that follows.
          • LoganDark 4y ago
            > Sure. But shouldn't it be left to the individual? Honestly, if someone chooses to be dependent on caffeine because they know and consent to it, that's fine I guess, though unfortunate. The problem is that caffeine use is so normalized that people seem to have forgotten that one even can become addicted or dependent on it—I would say "glorified" but that's a bit far. FWIW, I have some friends who are trying to quit caffeine. Not because I told them it was an issue, but because they independently decided that. I am somewhat biased by seeing cases of actual caffeine addiction and dependence, whereas most people only see the benefits of taking it. This is probably how the normalization happens, some people just don't know any better.
            • ChuckNorris89 4y ago
              >The problem is that caffeine use is so normalized that people seem to have forgotten that one even can become addicted or dependent on it—I would say "glorified" but that's a bit far. Seems like the solution is better education on the effects of caffeine and not putting it into the same category as drugs and alcohol. So far I'm yet to hear of people who's lives were ruined by coffee addiction. The fact that it makes you uncomfortable that people are dependent on coffee is kind of irelevant IMHO. We live in a free society. Let people have their coffee if they want it. Once you get harassed or mugged by someone on coffee withdrawal who needed a fix, then we can talk about regulating it.
              • LoganDark 4y ago
                > Seems like the solution is better education on the effects of caffeine and not putting it into the same category as drugs and alcohol. I... regret to inform you that caffeine is literally a drug, stimulant class. > So far I'm yet to hear of people who's lives were ruined by coffee addiction. I'm not really sure what your point is here, as I'm not saying caffeine addiction ruins lives, just that it's a thing that could be avoided more than it is now. > The fact that it makes you uncomfortable that people are dependent on coffee is kind of irelevant IMHO. I said "unfortunate", not "uncomfortable".