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Taiwan expects their engineers to work 60+ hour weeks. Of course they are running short. This is practically slave labor. TSMC will demand unbelievable things
by chasil 3y ago
Taiwan expects their engineers to work 60+ hour weeks.
Of course they are running short. This is practically slave labor.
TSMC will demand unbelievable things of a Ph.D. I cannot understand why there are any employees at all, but for love of the subject.
Read this. Read the whole thing. This is unbelievable. Maybe it is an artifact of China; I don't know.
"We all take two years to develop one generation, how come you guys can do it in one or one-and-a-half year?" And they asked if some of your customer transfer technology to you or what not? And I told him, "No," I told him that, "That's not true." I think he probably implied we steal technology from customer, the way he talk.
And I say, "I'll tell you why." I said that, "When we develop one node, basically you have some learning cycles. First, you do some simulation. And you have some idea, then you run wafers to prove that. So, you run a group of wafers according to simulation and you have some splits. The wafer runs through the fab, they come out and you measure them, you analyze them, and you try to improve and you run this again. This again, you run. So, this is learning cycle." At that time, "It takes about six learning cycle, roughly, to complete one generation." Of course, you had some short loops and not just one. I said that, "My R&D wafer in the fab run much faster than yours, because my R&D engineer works three shifts and you only work one shift. So, your R&D wafer move eight hours a day, my work/move 24-hours a day. So, my wafers go three times faster, even if you are twice smarter than me, I still beat you up." <laughter>
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- melagonster 3y agobecause they offer crazy salary in Taiwan. most of engineering will leave when they earned enough money and work in small company.
- ftxbro 3y agoI also heard that in Taiwan there is a lot of social prestige in working in semiconductors, like as much or more than FAANG (or whatever that's called now) or finance or university professor in US. In US there is not that same prestige for semiconductors.
- 411111111111111 3y agoFAANG Meta Apple Microsoft Amazon Alphabet ... MAMAA it is
- jones6ofMont 3y ago[dead]
- lesuorac 3y agoThe N in FAANG isn't for Nicrosoft.
- verdverm 3y agoNetflix is irrelevant at this point, Microsoft is far more interesting
- nebula8804 3y agoWonder how much of that if any is engineered by the government. They did invest nationally into semiconductors as a survival mechanism after all.
- HDThoreaun 3y agoTSMC has turned itself into Taiwan's number one form of national security. Their employees see themselves as martyrs who are actively saving the country from being invaded by China. Same sort of motivation that islamic jihadists use.