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IMO, this kind of pressure is needed and helpful to let people upgrade the vulnerable OS versions. Without it, people may stay forever with Windows XP.

userbinator 3y ago
Fuck that and the rest of the e-waste-generating degenerate corporate-authoritarian brainless drones.
- bruce511 3y ago
  I hear you, I'm not a fan of just throwing things away. But internet-connected devices are a special case which deserves consideration. Unfortunately Operating Systems, and the software that runs on them is imperfect. People are spending a lot of energy finding, and creating exploits based on, those imperfections. An old car can be used almost infinitum, if there's any danger it's likely to be to itself, or at worst very local to others. However an exploited old machine on a LAN, is dangerous to the entire LAN. And beyond. There are hardware iterations that create a specific cut-off, but I don't think Windows 10 was one. (As i recall, if it could run Windows 8 it could run Windows 10 AND the upgrade was/is free.) Yes there is -really- old hardware out there running XP, even DOS, but I'd argue its not something you should expose to the Internet, even as a client. Running old browers, and related software, to browse the modern Web, is a very risky game with a very large penalty for failure. In that context I'm happy to build sites targeting "current software".
- badsectoracula 3y ago
  > e-waste-generating degenerate corporate-authoritarian brainless drones. If it is e-waste you are worried about you can always use Linux to keep your older machines useful as that both allows them to run better than Windows with a lightweight DE while also using the latest versions of the available software with all the security fixes. You also get to have more control of how your computer will behave too.

5 ms·

IMO, this kind of pressure is needed and helpful to let people upgrade the vulnerable OS versions. Without it, people may stay forever with Windows XP.

by dialogbox 3y ago

userbinator 3y ago
Fuck that and the rest of the e-waste-generating degenerate corporate-authoritarian brainless drones.
- bruce511 3y ago
  I hear you, I'm not a fan of just throwing things away. But internet-connected devices are a special case which deserves consideration. Unfortunately Operating Systems, and the software that runs on them is imperfect. People are spending a lot of energy finding, and creating exploits based on, those imperfections. An old car can be used almost infinitum, if there's any danger it's likely to be to itself, or at worst very local to others. However an exploited old machine on a LAN, is dangerous to the entire LAN. And beyond. There are hardware iterations that create a specific cut-off, but I don't think Windows 10 was one. (As i recall, if it could run Windows 8 it could run Windows 10 AND the upgrade was/is free.) Yes there is -really- old hardware out there running XP, even DOS, but I'd argue its not something you should expose to the Internet, even as a client. Running old browers, and related software, to browse the modern Web, is a very risky game with a very large penalty for failure. In that context I'm happy to build sites targeting "current software".
- badsectoracula 3y ago
  > e-waste-generating degenerate corporate-authoritarian brainless drones. If it is e-waste you are worried about you can always use Linux to keep your older machines useful as that both allows them to run better than Windows with a lightweight DE while also using the latest versions of the available software with all the security fixes. You also get to have more control of how your computer will behave too.