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I don't know man, maybe you should remove some of these posts next time you apply: https://gavinhoward.com/2020/10/the-next-great-project-zion/ https://gavinho

I don't know man, maybe you should remove some of these posts next time you apply: https://gavinhoward.com/2020/10/the-next-great-project-zion/ https://gavinhoward.com/2020/10/the-next-great-project-zion/ (This one jumped out to me in particular.) https://gavinhoward.com/2022/08/the-nature-of-heaven-what-i-learned-from-my-first-animes/ https://gavinhoward.com/2022/08/the-nature-of-heaven-what-i-... https://gavinhoward.com/2021/07/the-next-free-nation/ https://gavinhoward.com/2021/07/the-next-free-nation/ https://gavinhoward.com/2021/06/israel-is-not-an-apartheid-state/ https://gavinhoward.com/2021/06/israel-is-not-an-apartheid-s... https://gavinhoward.com/2020/07/political-slavery/ https://gavinhoward.com/2020/07/political-slavery/ These posts you've been making might have more of an influence on your application than your medical history, bro. edit: In this post: https://gavinhoward.com/2021/07/the-next-free-nation/ https://gavinhoward.com/2021/07/the-next-free-nation/ You stated ..."So the United States must die. But what will rise in its place will be even greater: Zion." Bro, I would NOT want you flying my plane after reading that.

light_hue_1 3y ago
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- gavinhoward 3y ago
  If being religious makes me a nutjob, I'll take that label because it makes it meaningless.
  - sgt 3y ago
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    - gavinhoward 3y ago
      Okay, what outside of being religious makes me a nutjob?
    - dang 3y ago
      Please don't call names, do personal attacks and/or feed flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - mcv 3y ago
    Being religious and being a nutjob are entirely orthogonal to each other. I'm religious but you don't see me obsessing about Zion or wishing for countries to be destroyed by natural disasters. I just try to do good where I can. Edit: I'd like to stress I'm not the one arguing whether you are or are not a nutjob, I'm just saying that you don't have to be religious to be a nutjob, and you don't have to be a nutjob to be religious. Although people who are both, often use religion to justify their nutjobbery, and there's a big movement of people in the US corrupting religion to draw more people into ideas that are nuts. Not all of those have to do with the destruction of the US or bringing about Zion, but some do. And based on the things you write in the articles others linked to, I think you're a good person at heart; you do focus on the love and selflessness of Christ's message. But that makes wishing for the destruction of a country where people live, stand out even more, because it's so at odds with that love. And apparently this wish is based on questionable ideas about abortion that have been used over the past decades to manipulate well-meaning Christians into supporting increasingly extremist politics. It might be wise to free yourself from that, and instead focus more on just helping people in need, whatever their need might be.
    - gavinhoward 3y ago
      I'm not wishing for the US to be destroyed. Heaven knows I don't want to go through that. I'm not that stupid. I would rather that the US evolves slowly into Zion. But that's not going to happen because the US is going the opposite direction.
  - pixelbreaker 3y ago
    I bet you know Pastor Greg Locke.
    - gavinhoward 3y ago
      No idea who that is. Never heard of him. And my church does not use pastors.
- goodpoint 3y ago
  The expression "Y'all Quaeda" comes to mind.
- dang 3y ago
  Please don't call names, do personal attacks and/or take threads into flamewar on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
gavinhoward 3y ago
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- woodruffw 3y ago
  These posts are a pretty far throw from "religious," or even Christian in the basic nondenominational sense that most Americans use the word. I don't mean this in a judgemental way: if you're like most people (and you, like me, probably are), then you don't have the ability to "seal off" parts of your personality. Whatever part of you drives you to write posts like this is almost certainly also on display when you undergo medical exams.
  - gavinhoward 3y ago
    Okay. But what's wrong with having these beliefs? And I am Christian, but not nondenominational. I have very specific beliefs. Besides, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is still a major church. To argue that just because I don't believe the same things that most Christians do is a reason to deny me flight is bigoted. And that wasn't even the reason I was denied. All of the people examining me recommended that I receive a medical. Obviously, this personality of mine was no problem.
    - insomagent 3y ago
      Hey dude, I'm a Christian too. However, you gotta realize that it's extremism that leads people to want to fly planes into buildings, something the FAA might be inclined to care a bit about. Also, mix religious extremism with quips like "the US must die", and you've got a pretty good explanation for why your application might have been denied. Also, extremism like this is not the best way to lead new people to Christ, bro. Jesus didn't care about whose face was on the denarius.
      - gavinhoward 3y ago
        > Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets. [1] That's the kind of dying I'm talking about. Not extremist. That blog post is saying that the US is like Sodom and Gomorrha: there's a lot of evil, and God will eventually destroy it. I'm not saying it's our job to. Absolutely not. [1]: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/the-fam...
bitcharmer 3y ago
Oh wow, this is nuts. I guess this guy is a walking evidence FAA does some things right. Sheesh.
- gavinhoward 3y ago
  That's pretty bigoted. Read the rest of the thread and my updated post. It's clear that I also believe I must have loyalty to the current government. See D&C 134:5.
  - bitcharmer 3y ago
    > That's pretty bigoted nah, religious zealotry is nuts
    - dang 3y ago
      Please stop calling names and/or posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how nuts someone else is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - bitcharmer 3y ago
        I think you failed to read my comment correctly. I said religious zealotry is nuts. Not referring to a particular person.
        dang 3y ago
        Your comment broke the site guidelines either way. If it helps all, I can rephrase the moderation reply like this: Please stop calling names and/or posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how nuts something is or you feel it is. I don't think this distinction makes much difference in this case. It's clear which person people thought was the "religious zealot" and were ganging up on. He also broke the site guidelines badly, of course.
  - 3y ago
rhaps0dy 3y ago
What’s so wrong with the anime post? I think it’s kind of endearing the way the writer makes this all seem religiously ok.
dang 3y ago
Bringing in someone's external details as ammunition from elsewhere on the internet is not allowed on HN. It's a form of personal attack (even if you didn't intend it that way). I'm not saying that such details are necessarily irrelevant, but the cost of allowing them is much higher than any benefit (to wit: this subthread), so please don't. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22personal%20details%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

light_hue_1 3y ago

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gavinhoward 3y ago
If being religious makes me a nutjob, I'll take that label because it makes it meaningless.
- sgt 3y ago
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  - gavinhoward 3y ago
    Okay, what outside of being religious makes me a nutjob?
  - dang 3y ago
    Please don't call names, do personal attacks and/or feed flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- mcv 3y ago
  Being religious and being a nutjob are entirely orthogonal to each other. I'm religious but you don't see me obsessing about Zion or wishing for countries to be destroyed by natural disasters. I just try to do good where I can. Edit: I'd like to stress I'm not the one arguing whether you are or are not a nutjob, I'm just saying that you don't have to be religious to be a nutjob, and you don't have to be a nutjob to be religious. Although people who are both, often use religion to justify their nutjobbery, and there's a big movement of people in the US corrupting religion to draw more people into ideas that are nuts. Not all of those have to do with the destruction of the US or bringing about Zion, but some do. And based on the things you write in the articles others linked to, I think you're a good person at heart; you do focus on the love and selflessness of Christ's message. But that makes wishing for the destruction of a country where people live, stand out even more, because it's so at odds with that love. And apparently this wish is based on questionable ideas about abortion that have been used over the past decades to manipulate well-meaning Christians into supporting increasingly extremist politics. It might be wise to free yourself from that, and instead focus more on just helping people in need, whatever their need might be.
  - gavinhoward 3y ago
    I'm not wishing for the US to be destroyed. Heaven knows I don't want to go through that. I'm not that stupid. I would rather that the US evolves slowly into Zion. But that's not going to happen because the US is going the opposite direction.
- pixelbreaker 3y ago
  I bet you know Pastor Greg Locke.
  - gavinhoward 3y ago
    No idea who that is. Never heard of him. And my church does not use pastors.
goodpoint 3y ago
The expression "Y'all Quaeda" comes to mind.
dang 3y ago
Please don't call names, do personal attacks and/or take threads into flamewar on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

gavinhoward 3y ago

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woodruffw 3y ago
These posts are a pretty far throw from "religious," or even Christian in the basic nondenominational sense that most Americans use the word. I don't mean this in a judgemental way: if you're like most people (and you, like me, probably are), then you don't have the ability to "seal off" parts of your personality. Whatever part of you drives you to write posts like this is almost certainly also on display when you undergo medical exams.
- gavinhoward 3y ago
  Okay. But what's wrong with having these beliefs? And I am Christian, but not nondenominational. I have very specific beliefs. Besides, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is still a major church. To argue that just because I don't believe the same things that most Christians do is a reason to deny me flight is bigoted. And that wasn't even the reason I was denied. All of the people examining me recommended that I receive a medical. Obviously, this personality of mine was no problem.
  - insomagent 3y ago
    Hey dude, I'm a Christian too. However, you gotta realize that it's extremism that leads people to want to fly planes into buildings, something the FAA might be inclined to care a bit about. Also, mix religious extremism with quips like "the US must die", and you've got a pretty good explanation for why your application might have been denied. Also, extremism like this is not the best way to lead new people to Christ, bro. Jesus didn't care about whose face was on the denarius.
    - gavinhoward 3y ago
      > Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets. [1] That's the kind of dying I'm talking about. Not extremist. That blog post is saying that the US is like Sodom and Gomorrha: there's a lot of evil, and God will eventually destroy it. I'm not saying it's our job to. Absolutely not. [1]: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/the-fam...

bitcharmer 3y ago

Oh wow, this is nuts. I guess this guy is a walking evidence FAA does some things right. Sheesh.

gavinhoward 3y ago
That's pretty bigoted. Read the rest of the thread and my updated post. It's clear that I also believe I must have loyalty to the current government. See D&C 134:5.
- bitcharmer 3y ago
  > That's pretty bigoted nah, religious zealotry is nuts
  - dang 3y ago
    Please stop calling names and/or posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how nuts someone else is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - bitcharmer 3y ago
      I think you failed to read my comment correctly. I said religious zealotry is nuts. Not referring to a particular person.
      - dang 3y ago
        Your comment broke the site guidelines either way. If it helps all, I can rephrase the moderation reply like this: Please stop calling names and/or posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how nuts something is or you feel it is. I don't think this distinction makes much difference in this case. It's clear which person people thought was the "religious zealot" and were ganging up on. He also broke the site guidelines badly, of course.
- 3y ago

rhaps0dy 3y ago

What’s so wrong with the anime post? I think it’s kind of endearing the way the writer makes this all seem religiously ok.

dang 3y ago

Bringing in someone's external details as ammunition from elsewhere on the internet is not allowed on HN. It's a form of personal attack (even if you didn't intend it that way). I'm not saying that such details are necessarily irrelevant, but the cost of allowing them is much higher than any benefit (to wit: this subthread), so please don't. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22personal%20details%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...