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It was widely available from ~1930 until 1970. JFK was regularly using meth. It created a lot of problems.

LoganDark 4y ago
> JFK was regularly using meth. It created a lot of problems. Problems caused by drug abuse != problems caused by drug availability. Meth is neurotoxic, we know this now. So are all stimulants, to a degree. I take magnesium supplements with my ADHD meds because it depletes my brain of natural magnesium—I have had blood tests confirm this. But meth can be particularly dangerous, especially due to how addictive it is and how neurotoxic it gets when abused, compared to even the other amphetamines like dextroamphetamine. All this is not to say that it shouldn't be widely available. Just that proper, responsible usage information should also be widely available. Which it is not. If people knew how to take meth properly and responsibly, maybe there would be less cases of it getting out of control. Too bad all people have to go off of is anti-drug propaganda that says all drugs are bad. Leads to them ignoring all advice altogether, even if it could've otherwise helped them.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  You’re going to have a curve of abuse. Availability will affect that curve. Drugs like opioids and stimulants are great in that they work well at masking lots of symptoms, but our bodies adapt to them and the need for them feeds the physical dependence. The mental abuse factors amplify as well availability. Bookies and sports betting isn’t novel. Legalized betting on smartphones is; so now billions are spent on marketing to vacuum up many billions of dollars of bets. Humans are wired the way they are wired. Education about risk only benefits people capable of managing the risk - not the people likely to get addicted in the first place.
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    > Education about risk only benefits people capable of managing the risk - not the people likely to get addicted in the first place. Sure, but people likely to get addicted are sometimes also in the presence of people who would benefit from a proper drug education in order to help protect the more vulnerable. Am I saying people will stop using drugs if they stop being illegal? No way, the opposite actually. But if drug use wasn't considered indiscriminately bad, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing anyway.
  - junofan 4y ago
    I’m not really interested in managing the addictions of other people. Anyone who wants can already smoke meth by the gram.

> JFK was regularly using meth. It created a lot of problems. Problems caused by drug abuse != problems caused by drug availability. Meth is neurotoxic, we know this now. So are all stimulants, to a degree. I take magnesium supplements with my ADHD meds because it depletes my brain of natural magnesium—I have had blood tests confirm this. But meth can be particularly dangerous, especially due to how addictive it is and how neurotoxic it gets when abused, compared to even the other amphetamines like dextroamphetamine. All this is not to say that it shouldn't be widely available. Just that proper, responsible usage information should also be widely available. Which it is not. If people knew how to take meth properly and responsibly, maybe there would be less cases of it getting out of control. Too bad all people have to go off of is anti-drug propaganda that says all drugs are bad. Leads to them ignoring all advice altogether, even if it could've otherwise helped them.

Spooky23 4y ago
You’re going to have a curve of abuse. Availability will affect that curve. Drugs like opioids and stimulants are great in that they work well at masking lots of symptoms, but our bodies adapt to them and the need for them feeds the physical dependence. The mental abuse factors amplify as well availability. Bookies and sports betting isn’t novel. Legalized betting on smartphones is; so now billions are spent on marketing to vacuum up many billions of dollars of bets. Humans are wired the way they are wired. Education about risk only benefits people capable of managing the risk - not the people likely to get addicted in the first place.
- LoganDark 4y ago
  > Education about risk only benefits people capable of managing the risk - not the people likely to get addicted in the first place. Sure, but people likely to get addicted are sometimes also in the presence of people who would benefit from a proper drug education in order to help protect the more vulnerable. Am I saying people will stop using drugs if they stop being illegal? No way, the opposite actually. But if drug use wasn't considered indiscriminately bad, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing anyway.
- junofan 4y ago
  I’m not really interested in managing the addictions of other people. Anyone who wants can already smoke meth by the gram.