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Uh, it gets the same support as Pixel phones do. 3 years of major OS updates, 5 years of security updates.

by hammyhavoc 3y ago

Gigachad 3y ago
3 years is appalling. For something like a tablet I would be expecting 5-6 years major updates.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Better than most Android tablets that never see any updates, security or otherwise, and ship with an old version of Android out of the box. Can you name a better one?
  - Gigachad 3y ago
    No, I can't name a single Android tablet worth buying. It makes no sense to buy one over an iPad, even if you have no other Apple products.
    - hammyhavoc 3y ago
      Can the iPad do background sync of third-party file storage services like Nextcloud without having the app open in the first place yet? iOS only just got push notifications for PWAs too. Can't yet sideload on an iPad and are at the mercy of the App Store and the devs keeping up their subscription to keep niche apps up.
      - Gigachad 3y ago
        > Can the iPad do background sync of third-party file storage services like Nextcloud without having the app open in the first place yet? Yeah it can. I believe apps get free access to background jobs while the device is plugged in. Not too sure the details but I use Google Photos and the photos seem to background sync fine without me thinking about it. Sideloading is hopefully coming soon with the new EU laws. Though I wouldn't consider it much of a sales point considering the App Store selection is much larger than the Play Store tablet apps + sideloadable options.
        hammyhavoc 3y ago
        If it has to be plugged in, what good is it as a tablet? People need constant, real-time sync to avoid conflicts and make sure people from the field get their data back to whoever needs it. In the EU. For consumers, can iPad OS do multiple users yet?
        Gigachad 3y ago
        Have a look around, these people out in the field are all using iPads. Somehow they manage. Android tablets are usually given to kids or used as basic retail displays.
        hammyhavoc 3y ago
        Bold of you to assume I don't actively research and keep up with the latest products and OS. iPads are also not uncommonly given to kids too; what kind of counterargument is that? Puerile. The point still remains: the iPad doesn't do what I and others require. If you love the iPad, great, but it's not everything to everyone.
    - freedomben 3y ago
      What about the OnePlus Pad? Been hearing great things about it
  - hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
    An iPad? Seriously, if the comparison is "All these other shit sandwiches have really bad shit, but this shit sandwich only has the freshest shit", maybe it's time to get a different sandwich.
    - hammyhavoc 3y ago
      Call me when iPad OS does multiple users in non-enterprise scenarios and supports background sync of third-party apps like Nextcloud on battery and supports sideloading globally without a jailbreak or punishment. The shit sandwich analogy sucks BTW. It's a tool. If you need a screwdriver, why buy a nail gun? If you need x feature and y doesn't offer it, you buy x, even if it isn't supported in the long-term because it's a tool doing work today. I'm not going to accept an iPad as a substitute for what an Android tablet does today for the sake of it getting updates for longer (wtf?), but I might buy an iPad again if Apple ever pull their finger out on features that matter to me. Is it so difficult to accept that x isn't appropriate for you but it is for others? Likewise, is it so difficult to accept that an iPad has major shortcomings and limitations for others? The egocentrism on display is bizarre. If you like the iPad and it works for you, great. I want to like it, it doesn't do what I need.
bogwog 3y ago
So approximately a "Stadia" amount of support

Uh, it gets the same support as Pixel phones do. 3 years of major OS updates, 5 years of security updates.

Gigachad 3y ago

3 years is appalling. For something like a tablet I would be expecting 5-6 years major updates.

hammyhavoc 3y ago
Better than most Android tablets that never see any updates, security or otherwise, and ship with an old version of Android out of the box. Can you name a better one?
- Gigachad 3y ago
  No, I can't name a single Android tablet worth buying. It makes no sense to buy one over an iPad, even if you have no other Apple products.
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Can the iPad do background sync of third-party file storage services like Nextcloud without having the app open in the first place yet? iOS only just got push notifications for PWAs too. Can't yet sideload on an iPad and are at the mercy of the App Store and the devs keeping up their subscription to keep niche apps up.
    - Gigachad 3y ago
      > Can the iPad do background sync of third-party file storage services like Nextcloud without having the app open in the first place yet? Yeah it can. I believe apps get free access to background jobs while the device is plugged in. Not too sure the details but I use Google Photos and the photos seem to background sync fine without me thinking about it. Sideloading is hopefully coming soon with the new EU laws. Though I wouldn't consider it much of a sales point considering the App Store selection is much larger than the Play Store tablet apps + sideloadable options.
      - hammyhavoc 3y ago
        If it has to be plugged in, what good is it as a tablet? People need constant, real-time sync to avoid conflicts and make sure people from the field get their data back to whoever needs it. In the EU. For consumers, can iPad OS do multiple users yet?
        Gigachad 3y ago
        Have a look around, these people out in the field are all using iPads. Somehow they manage. Android tablets are usually given to kids or used as basic retail displays.
        hammyhavoc 3y ago
        Bold of you to assume I don't actively research and keep up with the latest products and OS. iPads are also not uncommonly given to kids too; what kind of counterargument is that? Puerile. The point still remains: the iPad doesn't do what I and others require. If you love the iPad, great, but it's not everything to everyone.
  - freedomben 3y ago
    What about the OnePlus Pad? Been hearing great things about it
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  An iPad? Seriously, if the comparison is "All these other shit sandwiches have really bad shit, but this shit sandwich only has the freshest shit", maybe it's time to get a different sandwich.
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Call me when iPad OS does multiple users in non-enterprise scenarios and supports background sync of third-party apps like Nextcloud on battery and supports sideloading globally without a jailbreak or punishment. The shit sandwich analogy sucks BTW. It's a tool. If you need a screwdriver, why buy a nail gun? If you need x feature and y doesn't offer it, you buy x, even if it isn't supported in the long-term because it's a tool doing work today. I'm not going to accept an iPad as a substitute for what an Android tablet does today for the sake of it getting updates for longer (wtf?), but I might buy an iPad again if Apple ever pull their finger out on features that matter to me. Is it so difficult to accept that x isn't appropriate for you but it is for others? Likewise, is it so difficult to accept that an iPad has major shortcomings and limitations for others? The egocentrism on display is bizarre. If you like the iPad and it works for you, great. I want to like it, it doesn't do what I need.

bogwog 3y ago

So approximately a "Stadia" amount of support