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At this point, I barely see a difference between "malware" and most commercial operating systems. Certainly anything samsung or microsoft makes are just thin pr
by version_five 3y ago
At this point, I barely see a difference between "malware" and most commercial operating systems. Certainly anything samsung or microsoft makes are just thin pretenses to steal as much information as possible. I'm not familiar with Googles stuff but I can't belive it's any different.
- jbverschoor 3y agoYet people piss on Apple users
- kevviiinn 3y agoYea because they somehow think their magical OS doesn't track them
- surgical_fire 3y agoIronic, when I consider iOS and MacOS to be malware too.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoThat’s an even stronger example of malware. At least with Android I have the choice to use a custom ROM.
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- M95D 3y agoMost companies want your data. Apple also fights for exclusivity of having your data.
- Xeamek 3y agoA but unhinged to compare first party telemetry to actually unrestricted malware, no matter how you square it
- ryanmentor 3y agoThe comparison is direct and apt, as a comment on a story about devices delivered with hostile software on them. From a consumer POV, they are indistinguishable, are they not? At least third party malware works silently and efficiently. First party hateware puts ads in the start menu.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoOne annoys while the other may drain your bank account. I'd say the distinction is still quite stark.
- M95D 3y agoYou entered your bank card data on your phone? OMG!
- DANmode 3y agoYou say "first party telemetry" in a way that makes the reader think you believe "Microsoft just wants to make Windows better." I had a much longer comment, but it eventually detracted from this point: you can't guarantee where that data goes, how it's stored through its life, etc.
- PradeetPatel 3y agoUnlike malware authors, most big tech companies are bound by legal and ethical frameworks regarding data collection, retention, and usage. Inappropriate usage of PII can lead to severe consequences in most western countries.
- GoblinSlayer 3y agoAmerican business ethics is nothing to brag about, and their legal framework is basically "by using this service you allow us to do anything we want".
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- miohtama 3y agoMalware outright steals your banking information and empties your bank account. Microsoft, Google or Apple do not do this. Staff for telecoms in developing countries do.
- kornhole 3y agoPlenty of apps people call malware do not rob your banking account. They could be tracking your location, using your microphone, and tracking other activities. These are known as info stealers. The problem with the word malware is that it has no clear definition and is evolving along with technology and threats.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoMalware has a clear definition, it’s any software that is maliciously targeting the end user. The issue is some people have been conditioned into believing software that tracks your every move, restricts freedom to your hardware, and can be easily spied on, are fine as long as they come from [insert company of choice], because it “helps improve the experience”, or even worse, because they “have nothing to hide”.
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- flangola7 3y ago> Microsoft, Google or Apple do not do this. I would make the argument that their long tail effects are worse.
- lostlogin 3y agoIf a bit of software jammed adverts into your search results or put adds into various fields on your machine, I’d call them malware. Why do you differentiate when it’s pre-installed for you? Apple, Microsoft and Google absolutely do this.
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